Undervalued To Their Host Country?

[Lloyd90 509]

 

Honestly if you believe in capitalism and the free market I don't see how you can complain about immigrants "stealing" jobs.

 

If you're not going to make as much profit for your employer as a Polish worker willing to worker harder for less then why would they employ you?

Thats what i carnt get my head around the hard left supporting mass immigration as the only ones who benefit from it is the very people they loath and despise the capitalists.

 

 

Its all bollock's, most of em own or have a stake in big factories, industries or places. Who do you think funds "labour" ? The average working man ? Or big businesses who make millions of ££ every year ?! Its in their benefit to have cheap foreign workers cos it keeps the wage bills down. Owners of factories and the like probably love being in the EU.

 

There isn't really a working man's party any more, and with the hand out's and benefit state a lot of middle class who hold a lot of voting power are miffed off with non-workers pushing them to vote tory as they go to work and see people everyday sitting about doing feck all and they're paying for it! All the while those at the top keep skimming the cream

[tatsblisters 7,946]

 

 

Honestly if you believe in capitalism and the free market I don't see how you can complain about immigrants "stealing" jobs.

 

If you're not going to make as much profit for your employer as a Polish worker willing to worker harder for less then why would they employ you?

Thats what i carnt get my head around the hard left supporting mass immigration as the only ones who benefit from it is the very people they loath and despise the capitalists.

 

 

Its all bollock's, most of em own or have a stake in big factories, industries or places. Who do you think funds "labour" ? The average working man ? Or big businesses who make millions of ££ every year ?! Its in their benefit to have cheap foreign workers cos it keeps the wage bills down. Owners of factories and the like probably love being in the EU.

 

There isn't really a working man's party any more, and with the hand out's and benefit state a lot of middle class who hold a lot of voting power are miffed off with non-workers pushing them to vote tory as they go to work and see people everyday sitting about doing feck all and they're paying for it! All the while those at the top keep skimming the cream

 

I was thinking more in the line of groups like the socialist workers party and such like who want open borders and would let any fecker and their grandmothers into the country if they had their way.

[TOMO 24,876]

Yes Lloyd ,,been along time since the Labour Party ,,,was a socialist party,,,,I bet that hardie follow is turning in his grave now,, if he could see what it's turned in to,,,,

 

And to think how strong it was after the war,,,and what beven achieved with the national health service....

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

Surprised this country hasn't fell to pieces or ever became a first world country lol these robotic foreigner's that don't even need a break are that good but there countries they came from are shitholes? and have to come here to make a better life for themselves. Also there crafty b*****ds know loads of people that say the same when the bosses are about graft like fook but only when they are about lol

[WILF 44,306]

IMHO all the labour laws don't help one bit, as I small firm I would NEVER EVER take anybody on directly and I only have respect for people that do no matter what nationality.

 

They have to have a minimum amount per hour wether they are worth it or not, you have to pay them when they want a f***ing holiday (I wish someone would pay me to go on holiday).....you can't sack them if they are shit without finding yourself in front of a tribunal......and you may as well write the cheque as the employer never wins.

 

As a small firm it's just too risky, if people want to work they will work and if you don't go then you dont get no money......simple as that !!

None of this sitting at home cause you are "stressed" or "depressed" or whatever and getting paid for the previllige........it's a lot more depressing and stressful being the poor c**t that has to pay you out his own pocket with f**k all in return !!!

[paulf 820]

We have a few poles working on the farm where i work ,never moan with whatever shitty job they get and just get on with it .

Yet i was speaking to a lad i went to school with and asked him what hes doing these days his answer was nothing no jobs too many poles ect ..now this bloke has never had a job longer than a few months not interested in working .So you can see why employers get these foreigners in .

ps talking about polish girls theres one here called Mary even covered in cow shit shes a looker .

[twobob 1,458]

As I have always said, we need to sort ourselves out a bit.

I watched 4 lads last year, 3 Eastern Europeans and a big black lad carry sheets of plaster board upto the 6th floor by the stairs.....they had it unloaded from a truck and up in just under an hour carrying it 4 sheets at a time on their backs.

This is all they did all day, went round London unloading plasterboard.....soon as they had finished they were off to the next to do it all over again.

Now that is collar, and there ain't many English lads would do it I am afraid.

If you don't I have much education (like me) then I am afraid your only option is to graft and if your better than the other bloke then you will be working and he won't.....simple as that!

put em a bottle of oxy between two 21 floors and see how they get on building at the side of leicester railway station student accomadation now only worked with one pole decent enough lad but didnt seem too keen on swinging a hammer all day he had a citb card two young english lads never stopped allday no citb card payed less than mr pole oh and mr pole said he had never worked on demolition before

[dytkos 17,536]

Surprised this country hasn't fell to pieces or ever became a first world country lol these robotic foreigner's that don't even need a break are that good but there countries they came from are shitholes? and have to come here to make a better life for themselves. Also there crafty b*****ds know loads of people that say the same when the bosses are about graft like fook but only when they are about lol

Work with them all! Poles, Russians, Portuguese, Bulgarians, Romanians, the "long established" Poles are the worst, play the system like fook.

Most of the best are Romanians but a lot are shite tbh

 

Cheers, D.

[tatsblisters 7,946]

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/life-sentence-for-horrific-rotherham-child-abuser-and-trafficker-as-brother-gets-12-years-1-7403886 Dirty roma and wat with the pakistani grooming gangs wat a shithole of a town.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

 

 

 

I don't see why so many have a problem with them we have about 200 in are town they all work in the fishy or on farms local they don't come in trying too change anything sure when they first got here there was a few good scraps between locals and poles thinking they were hard man type they soon got dealt with but the rest are nice and friendly always smile and wave the fact folk think that they steal jobs is a load of pish every one hits a bad run of luck every now and then but if your not willing too put the time in looking for one you won't get one you just got too be willing too work some are just lazy b*****ds and in a small town like this every one knows every one and too my knowledge there is only one pole on the dole here out of the 200 and that's cos he married a local and even the poles don't like him and I've got more native friends that are on the dole every other week then the poles hell even a couple of local lads are going out with some of them I've always found them a good lot too be honest I've had more hassle from rich English folk that move up here then poles hell I had one English woman try too tell me not too put my net out in the bay the other week cos she dint like me spoiling her view she got told not so politely too f**k off there was even I story I heard a while ago where an English couple were asking how they could get the pipe band too stop playing the music so loud

 

they do steal jobs from British workers,as well as bring down the price of labour i.e your wages.

 

it's nothing personal,but them being here is detrimental to the vast majority of us.

Not the VAST MAJORITY at all. Unfortunately they are a detriment to low skilled workers or labourers , or semi skilled manual workers like those in the building trade.

I assume you are in this field ?

Obviously they will take jobs off British workers , problem is alot complain they can't get British workers who'll do a proper days graft, or who won't rip them off or do a shite job.

Many people who employ or get work done by poles think they are a great benefit not a detriment. Depends what side you are on.

There are also many skilled and highly trained immigrants in employment here. The large amount of doctors, opticians and nurses are Asian or similar. They seem to have a cultural idea to raise their kids with the idea that they need to work hard, education is pushed as highly important, they come from countries with very poor benefits systems so you pretty much either sink or swim.

We do have people who genuinely need help but there's so many lazy, worthless tossers having a free ride, or simply topping up their pay that it causes resentment between those in work and those out of work.

You can easily find British workers who'll work hard and do a good job,just not for £7 an hour.

 

That's where our Eastern European friends come in,if I was a souless CEO of a huge corporation,I'd be praising mass immigration and probably fund the labour party.

 

Even if they weren't willing to work cheaper (which they are) than us,they stll flood the market with labour lessening it's value.

AI mate that's how competition works, and big business owners get rich. Happened for generations. Chinese labour built the great US Railroads, Black slave labour worked the plantations, Vietnamese Labour brought in when they want too much money, now a lot of their farms worked by Mexican labour bussed in from across the border.

 

Problem is, if you choose to go into a profession where someone else can do the job for cheaper, or will work harder, they'll often get the work first.

Nothing soulless about it from a CEO's perspective. If you had a company you'd employ the hardest workers who will work for the cheapest rate. If the jobs these immigrants did were shite they wouldn't be asked back so they must be doing tidy work for cheaper money.

See it all the time in my job. Get British drivers that won't start at that time, or won't drive to that place or won't do that run as the product needs hand balled off. Had one tell me last week how funny he thought it was that he turned around and brought back a trailer full of product because he 'didn't like the look of the diversion'. No phone call to the depot or f**k all.

 

Clients are falling over themselves to employ me. Is it any wonder that when I turn up on time (at any time), speaking good English with some customer service and don't smash trucks or get infringements?

 

There was an excellent article on Vice a few months ago. It basically boiled down to 'no body gives a f**k about you, unless you can offer them something'. If you want a job/contract/paid employment in this day and age something has to set you apart from the competition. You have to be able to do it better, faster, cheaper or to a higher standard than the next guy. The only thing that matters is results.

[BIGLURKS 874]

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see why so many have a problem with them we have about 200 in are town they all work in the fishy or on farms local they don't come in trying too change anything sure when they first got here there was a few good scraps between locals and poles thinking they were hard man type they soon got dealt with but the rest are nice and friendly always smile and wave the fact folk think that they steal jobs is a load of pish every one hits a bad run of luck every now and then but if your not willing too put the time in looking for one you won't get one you just got too be willing too work some are just lazy b*****ds and in a small town like this every one knows every one and too my knowledge there is only one pole on the dole here out of the 200 and that's cos he married a local and even the poles don't like him and I've got more native friends that are on the dole every other week then the poles hell even a couple of local lads are going out with some of them I've always found them a good lot too be honest I've had more hassle from rich English folk that move up here then poles hell I had one English woman try too tell me not too put my net out in the bay the other week cos she dint like me spoiling her view she got told not so politely too f**k off there was even I story I heard a while ago where an English couple were asking how they could get the pipe band too stop playing the music so loud

in that line of work it will be but I know a lot of lads that would just be happy with folk showing up on a Monday too do some work

 

they do steal jobs from British workers,as well as bring down the price of labour i.e your wages.

 

it's nothing personal,but them being here is detrimental to the vast majority of us.

Not the VAST MAJORITY at all. Unfortunately they are a detriment to low skilled workers or labourers , or semi skilled manual workers like those in the building trade.

I assume you are in this field ?

Obviously they will take jobs off British workers , problem is alot complain they can't get British workers who'll do a proper days graft, or who won't rip them off or do a shite job.

Many people who employ or get work done by poles think they are a great benefit not a detriment. Depends what side you are on.

There are also many skilled and highly trained immigrants in employment here. The large amount of doctors, opticians and nurses are Asian or similar. They seem to have a cultural idea to raise their kids with the idea that they need to work hard, education is pushed as highly important, they come from countries with very poor benefits systems so you pretty much either sink or swim.

We do have people who genuinely need help but there's so many lazy, worthless tossers having a free ride, or simply topping up their pay that it causes resentment between those in work and those out of work.

You can easily find British workers who'll work hard and do a good job,just not for £7 an hour.

 

That's where our Eastern European friends come in,if I was a souless CEO of a huge corporation,I'd be praising mass immigration and probably fund the labour party.

 

Even if they weren't willing to work cheaper (which they are) than us,they stll flood the market with labour lessening it's value.

AI mate that's how competition works, and big business owners get rich. Happened for generations. Chinese labour built the great US Railroads, Black slave labour worked the plantations, Vietnamese Labour brought in when they want too much money, now a lot of their farms worked by Mexican labour bussed in from across the border.

 

Problem is, if you choose to go into a profession where someone else can do the job for cheaper, or will work harder, they'll often get the work first.

Nothing soulless about it from a CEO's perspective. If you had a company you'd employ the hardest workers who will work for the cheapest rate. If the jobs these immigrants did were shite they wouldn't be asked back so they must be doing tidy work for cheaper money.

See it all the time in my job. Get British drivers that won't start at that time, or won't drive to that place or won't do that run as the product needs hand balled off. Had one tell me last week how funny he thought it was that he turned around and brought back a trailer full of product because he 'didn't like the look of the diversion'. No phone call to the depot or f**k all.

Clients are falling over themselves to employ me. Is it any wonder that when I turn up on time (at any time), speaking good English with some customer service and don't smash trucks or get infringements?

There was an excellent article on Vice a few months ago. It basically boiled down to 'no body gives a f**k about you, unless you can offer them something'. If you want a job/contract/paid employment in this day and age something has to set you apart from the competition. You have to be able to do it better, faster, cheaper or to a higher standard than the next guy. The only thing that matters is results.

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/life-sentence-for-horrific-rotherham-child-abuser-and-trafficker-as-brother-gets-12-years-1-7403886 Dirty roma and wat with the pakistani grooming gangs wat a shithole of a town.

Same mould as the establishment is it any wonder they are not bothered who comes into the country?

[mushroom 12,388]

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see why so many have a problem with them we have about 200 in are town they all work in the fishy or on farms local they don't come in trying too change anything sure when they first got here there was a few good scraps between locals and poles thinking they were hard man type they soon got dealt with but the rest are nice and friendly always smile and wave the fact folk think that they steal jobs is a load of pish every one hits a bad run of luck every now and then but if your not willing too put the time in looking for one you won't get one you just got too be willing too work some are just lazy b*****ds and in a small town like this every one knows every one and too my knowledge there is only one pole on the dole here out of the 200 and that's cos he married a local and even the poles don't like him and I've got more native friends that are on the dole every other week then the poles hell even a couple of local lads are going out with some of them I've always found them a good lot too be honest I've had more hassle from rich English folk that move up here then poles hell I had one English woman try too tell me not too put my net out in the bay the other week cos she dint like me spoiling her view she got told not so politely too f**k off there was even I story I heard a while ago where an English couple were asking how they could get the pipe band too stop playing the music so loud

 

they do steal jobs from British workers,as well as bring down the price of labour i.e your wages.

 

it's nothing personal,but them being here is detrimental to the vast majority of us.

Not the VAST MAJORITY at all. Unfortunately they are a detriment to low skilled workers or labourers , or semi skilled manual workers like those in the building trade.

I assume you are in this field ?

Obviously they will take jobs off British workers , problem is alot complain they can't get British workers who'll do a proper days graft, or who won't rip them off or do a shite job.

Many people who employ or get work done by poles think they are a great benefit not a detriment. Depends what side you are on.

There are also many skilled and highly trained immigrants in employment here. The large amount of doctors, opticians and nurses are Asian or similar. They seem to have a cultural idea to raise their kids with the idea that they need to work hard, education is pushed as highly important, they come from countries with very poor benefits systems so you pretty much either sink or swim.

We do have people who genuinely need help but there's so many lazy, worthless tossers having a free ride, or simply topping up their pay that it causes resentment between those in work and those out of work.

You can easily find British workers who'll work hard and do a good job,just not for £7 an hour.

 

That's where our Eastern European friends come in,if I was a souless CEO of a huge corporation,I'd be praising mass immigration and probably fund the labour party.

 

Even if they weren't willing to work cheaper (which they are) than us,they stll flood the market with labour lessening it's value.

AI mate that's how competition works, and big business owners get rich. Happened for generations. Chinese labour built the great US Railroads, Black slave labour worked the plantations, Vietnamese Labour brought in when they want too much money, now a lot of their farms worked by Mexican labour bussed in from across the border.

 

Problem is, if you choose to go into a profession where someone else can do the job for cheaper, or will work harder, they'll often get the work first.

Nothing soulless about it from a CEO's perspective. If you had a company you'd employ the hardest workers who will work for the cheapest rate. If the jobs these immigrants did were shite they wouldn't be asked back so they must be doing tidy work for cheaper money.

See it all the time in my job. Get British drivers that won't start at that time, or won't drive to that place or won't do that run as the product needs hand balled off. Had one tell me last week how funny he thought it was that he turned around and brought back a trailer full of product because he 'didn't like the look of the diversion'. No phone call to the depot or f**k all.

 

Clients are falling over themselves to employ me. Is it any wonder that when I turn up on time (at any time), speaking good English with some customer service and don't smash trucks or get infringements?

 

There was an excellent article on Vice a few months ago. It basically boiled down to 'no body gives a f**k about you, unless you can offer them something'. If you want a job/contract/paid employment in this day and age something has to set you apart from the competition. You have to be able to do it better, faster, cheaper or to a higher standard than the next guy. The only thing that matters is results.

Couldn't put it better!

 

That translates to any and all business's mate; relationship, honesty, dedication and a job well done

[jonah. 775]

Daily mail and some second rate free polish rag journalistic load of old bollocks.

 

Fast moving consumer goods, care, and hospitality industry's in this country would all charge a lot more for the end products, if they didn't pay minimum wage. For that you need immigration. Fact.

 

Alternatively we can pay more for these services and a host of others like them.

 

I won't hold my breath waiting for the economy got grind to a halt on the 20th August.

[Lloyd90 509]

Watched on benefits and proud on channel 5 earlier. f**k me if thats the ones willing to go on TV imagine the scrounging c**ts who keep it a secret.

 

The benefit system is great in theory, if people only used it if needed to get back on their feet but the way it is atm I'd rather we f****d it all off, people soon find some job.

 

For hundreds of years youve had those with and those without, its only the last 50 or so years we've had all this socialist stuff helping out people but the way its abused or the attitudes of some of the c**ts it makes me want to say get f****d to the lot of em and tough shit that's your cards in life.