WILF 50,209 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not against gay people or a gay couple having the same legal rights as a married hetro couple, but the act of marriage is a union between a man and a woman and should stay that way IMO.. Instinctively I'm inclined to agree with that Mal. But the definition of marriage you have given is one from religion. I'm not a religious man, but I still choose to follow the cultural traditions of my fundamentally Christian country. Is that wrong? Is wanting to follow my culture's traditions wrong? Traditions like church weddings etc may owe a lot to our religious roots (Christian as well as pagan) but they have become part of our culture, which is about far more than what god you pray to, it's about who we are as a nation. The finer details may be tweaked to suit but the culture remains. If the Gays want to marry, they seem to have as much right as the atheists. I think homosexual people have it fairly good, it's not a criminal offence and they can form a civil partnership...... I'd say society has been as accepting as it can be. If however we are saying they should be able to because they were born that way and it's their natural behaviour then I have to ask, how could you refuse the longings of any other type of sexual deviant or cleptomaniac or anyone else for that matter? Allowing them acceptance into society is surely the logical conclusion of that argument ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Alot of blokes aint keen on gays but dont mind lesbians. Im just always gutted that the leabians dont look like on the computer. Always a butch one who looks like a bloke anyway. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not against gay people or a gay couple having the same legal rights as a married hetro couple, but the act of marriage is a union between a man and a woman and should stay that way IMO.. Instinctively I'm inclined to agree with that Mal. But the definition of marriage you have given is one from religion. I'm not a religious man, but I still choose to follow the cultural traditions of my fundamentally Christian country. Is that wrong? Is wanting to follow my culture's traditions wrong? Traditions like church weddings etc may owe a lot to our religious roots (Christian as well as pagan) but they have become part of our culture, which is about far more than what god you pray to, it's about who we are as a nation. The finer details may be tweaked to suit but the culture remains. If the Gays want to marry, they seem to have as much right as the atheists. I think homosexual people have it fairly good, it's not a criminal offence and they can form a civil partnership...... I'd say society has been as accepting as it can be. If however we are saying they should be able to because they were born that way and it's their natural behaviour then I have to ask, how could you refuse the longings of any other type of sexual deviant or cleptomaniac or anyone else for that matter? Allowing them acceptance into society is surely the logical conclusion of that argument ? That is the next logical destination with that line of thought Wilf, I agree. So where do we as society draw the line at what is acceptable and what is not... Well for the most part I'd say where a behaviour, sexual or otherwise, is directly and unsolicitadely harmful to one of the party's involved. Otherwise I consider it none of societies business and should be down to the freedom of the individual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not against gay people or a gay couple having the same legal rights as a married hetro couple, but the act of marriage is a union between a man and a woman and should stay that way IMO.. Instinctively I'm inclined to agree with that Mal. But the definition of marriage you have given is one from religion. I'm not a religious man, but I still choose to follow the cultural traditions of my fundamentally Christian country. Is that wrong? Is wanting to follow my culture's traditions wrong? Traditions like church weddings etc may owe a lot to our religious roots (Christian as well as pagan) but they have become part of our culture, which is about far more than what god you pray to, it's about who we are as a nation. The finer details may be tweaked to suit but the culture remains. If the Gays want to marry, they seem to have as much right as the atheists. I think homosexual people have it fairly good, it's not a criminal offence and they can form a civil partnership...... I'd say society has been as accepting as it can be. If however we are saying they should be able to because they were born that way and it's their natural behaviour then I have to ask, how could you refuse the longings of any other type of sexual deviant or cleptomaniac or anyone else for that matter? Allowing them acceptance into society is surely the logical conclusion of that argument ? That is the next logical destination with that line of thought Wilf, I agree. So where do we as society draw the line at what is acceptable and what is not... Well for the most part I'd say where a behaviour, sexual or otherwise, is directly and unsolicitadely harmful to one of the party's involved. Otherwise I consider it none of societies business and should be down to the freedom of the individual. so beastiality would be fine if we could somehow prove the animal didn't mind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) I'm not against gay people or a gay couple having the same legal rights as a married hetro couple, but the act of marriage is a union between a man and a woman and should stay that way IMO.. Instinctively I'm inclined to agree with that Mal. But the definition of marriage you have given is one from religion. I'm not a religious man, but I still choose to follow the cultural traditions of my fundamentally Christian country. Is that wrong? Is wanting to follow my culture's traditions wrong? Traditions like church weddings etc may owe a lot to our religious roots (Christian as well as pagan) but they have become part of our culture, which is about far more than what god you pray to, it's about who we are as a nation. The finer details may be tweaked to suit but the culture remains. If the Gays want to marry, they seem to have as much right as the atheists. I think homosexual people have it fairly good, it's not a criminal offence and they can form a civil partnership...... I'd say society has been as accepting as it can be.If however we are saying they should be able to because they were born that way and it's their natural behaviour then I have to ask, how could you refuse the longings of any other type of sexual deviant or cleptomaniac or anyone else for that matter? Allowing them acceptance into society is surely the logical conclusion of that argument ? That is the next logical destination with that line of thought Wilf, I agree. So where do we as society draw the line at what is acceptable and what is not... Well for the most part I'd say where a behaviour, sexual or otherwise, is directly and unsolicitadely harmful to one of the party's involved. Otherwise I consider it none of societies business and should be down to the freedom of the individual. so beastiality would be fine if we could somehow prove the animal didn't mind? If someone wants to f**k their animals then that's their f****d up business. I'm a bit more concerned about people being harmed than animals. Personally I'd be of the opinion animals can't give consent so should be left well alone, same as children. Edited April 30, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,209 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I take it this "church marriage " will be enforced in all places of worship for all religions ?........will it f**k ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I take it this "church marriage " will be enforced in all places of worship for all religions ?........will it f**k ! It shouldn't be enforced on any administration. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I couldn't care less, mainly because everyone I know who has had a church wedding is just doing it for the 'show' (especially the women) Big dress, expensive suits, limos, horse drawn carriages & all the rest of the bullshit that go's with it.......I don't know anyone that wanted gods blessing haha.....cost a fcuking fortune, get in loads of debt ( ironically for gods blessing ) & in many cases split up in a year or so.....haha.... It's a modern fcuking sham!........gays are fcuking welcome to it & I hope it grates on all the god fearers nerves hahaha..... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,097 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Have to say our kid was gay from day one I shit you not I've told him straight (lol no pun) I will never accept Poofs having kids and he is defo one of these "fabulous" types that thinks the world is their stage. One time the cnut just lept in the air and did the splits and ripped his pants.. On the fuuckin metro here in barca.... so I slapped him now the bitch has a hump with me lol As Gnasher said..... attention seeking 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I couldn't care less, mainly because everyone I know who has had a church wedding is just doing it for the 'show' (especially the women) Big dress, expensive suits, limos, horse drawn carriages & all the rest of the bullshit that go's with it.......I don't know anyone that wanted gods blessing haha.....cost a fcuking fortune, get in loads of debt ( ironically for gods blessing ) & in many cases split up in a year or so.....haha.... It's a modern fcuking sham!........gays are fcuking welcome to it & I hope it grates on all the god fearers nerves hahaha..... true, but suppose its the woman you marry today, as in my day I got hitched in 1982, and my wife wanted all the hype that goes with it lol. But I get the feeling today , a lot of young people arnt that bothered and just live together anyway, and use there money on other things than this expensive hype . But in saying this my 28 year old son did get married last year after being together near 3 years , his wife 24 . I was quite surprised as only 1 of his mates are married , his other mates/girlfriends just live together . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Don't have a problem with folk being gay......don't want to see any kissing or f**k all on a night out but if they keep that indoors then who cares. As for getting married I think they shouldn't be allowed. They're only doing it because at the moment 'they can't'. Makes a mockery of the marriage vows and the reasons for marriage for me. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I wonder what makes a gay gay.be it woman or man...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,945 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I have a gay living next door to me.very helpfull I mite add.always the to lend me a hand when ever I like..ha Bet he'd bend over backwards for you Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,945 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 louie spencer has you in stitches? he makes me feel ill lol. gays are more likey than average to be drug abuses, self harm, syffer mental disorders, be peadophiles etc. everything about them from how they speak and act to what they wear is just so in your face, in general they have no class just over the top flamboyancy. their full existence is defined by their sexual preferences making sure everyone is aware they are gay. plus they all have aids. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,677 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Question : would you rather see a kid put in care rather than put with a loving caring gay couple ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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