Chr15j 59 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Those voting yes are voting for: No currency (as it stands) No eu membership (it won't happen overnight) No credit rating worth a sh1te No free movement of goods or persons No preferential trade agreements No monetary support from rest if uk No place on the world stage/financial markets No inward skilled migration No border defence Voting no would mean Yes you do get money from uk Yes you are a part if a major world player Yes you can defend your borders Yes we will bail you out if you screw up Yes we will pay for your education Yes you can freely move and trade in Europe Ironic really You are not voting for freedom you are voting for isolation, you are more free than you could ever imagine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,710 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Joe English taxpayers fund Scotland's FREE prescriptions and university'sAt this moment in timeWhich would Stop as a result of a Yes Vote Not true, they can much more of everything.......Salmond said so !! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RemyBolt 420 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Has anyone else noted how rubbish the 'No' campaign has been? It's currently being lead by Conservatives, right? Why is it so rubbish a campaign? Is it because the conservatives are to rubbish? Maybe. Here's my 2 cents: Scotland is a dominantly Labour voting area. If Scotland was to become independent, there would be no chance that Labour would ever get into government again. Any wonder why the Conservatives are not trying too hard? Could it all just be a big game of 'acting' like you want Scotland to stay when in actual fact a Conservative government would dominate parliament without Scotland's Labour vote? I think it's all just a big political game. Sorry you are wrong. The campaign has been led by Labour, TV debates by Alister Darling, Gordon Brown been doing a bit. The Conservatives have kept quite a low profile for obvious reasons. The problem with the NO campaign is it has been too sober, clinical and negative. If you want to rally the troops you need to stir up a bit of nationalistic pride like the YES campaign has with it's Hollywood pseudo historic Braveheart bollocks. Unfortunately the traitor left in England do not have a patriotic bone in their bodies, so they were incapable of projecting a positive image of Geat Britain. That was kind of my point but badly explained I guess. The conservatives would not have a problem with Scotland leaving as that would ensure Conservative government for like the next 20 years or more. Scotland is so powerfully Labour. I probably shouldn't have said being LED by conservatives. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 i hope that they do vote yes. labour will be finished. This should mean the rise of UKIP with any luck. I bet Labour can see trouble ahead! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onion jonny 526 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 well love or loath salmond but the little guy has gave the big party leader the runaround, right now the three main party leaders are in scotland at the same time pleading for a no vote, dont like him myself but he's a force not to be taken lightly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) No been funny joe your. The biggest poster about voting yes but on the next page your posting your unemployed ? So if Salmon feck,s it up it's no really going to affect you , your taxes won't rise you will still be getting your cash every fortnight ? I've not been unemployed all my life, nor do I plan to be rest of it. Salmond again..... Talking about taxes, you know the risk to them after a no vote??? Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,710 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Aye worry not boys, you will have free everything, more police, more welfare, a free kilt for every man, woman and child A theme park in every garden Money will grow on trees It will never run out Oil will continue to flow for the next 4000 years You can join any currency, NATO, the EU, OPEC just by Salmond saying he wants to, no questions asked f**k it, what's not to beleive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) No been funny joe your. The biggest poster about voting yes but on the next page your posting your unemployed ? So if Salmon feck,s it up it's no really going to affect you , your taxes won't rise you will still be getting your cash every fortnight ? I've not been unemployed all my life, nor do I plan to be rest of it. Salmond again..... Talking about taxes, you know the risk to them after a no vote??? scotland can afford services it already has, after a no vote they and taxes are at risk.. after a yes vote we can save some money on stuff below and trident upgrade.., it can be used more wisly, on things like current serives and new,towards debt etc etc Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,710 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Are those figures not a little colourful matey.........it's says "cost to Scotland" but in fact the HS2 project has a projected budget of £5 billion in total,!so that wouldn't be just Scotland would it now Just had a look and sorry my mistake, it's £16 billion so you are saying that a tenth of the population pick up 30% of the cost ? How comes ? Edited September 10, 2014 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Are those figures not a little colourful matey.........it's says "cost to Scotland" but in fact the HS2 project has a projected budget of £5 billion in total,!so that wouldn't be just Scotland would it now Just had a look and sorry my mistake, it's £16 billion so you are saying that a tenth of the population pick up 30% of the cost ? How comes ? ive removed the image as it isnt 100% it was expected to cost uk £25 billion, its now £48 billion. my bad scotland is paying 4,771 million pounds the fact of the matter is we can afford to pay for our services and we are paying for stuff scotland doesnt need or use... Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,656 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I assume by "need or use" you're referring to Trident among others. You might not need it to do business but if you want a military alliance with NATO you sure as hell need it. It's a nuclear alliance ffs. It terrifies me how defence is treated like a luxury and not a fundamental necessity. Left wing f***ing hippies! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) I assume by "need or use" you're referring to Trident among others. You might not need it to do business but if you want a military alliance with NATO you sure as hell need it. It's a nuclear alliance ffs. It terrifies me how defence is treated like a luxury and not a fundamental necessity. Left wing f***ing hippies! LOL how many countries are in nato and how many have nukes, scotland will be in nato mate, our position is one key reason who really owns those nukes, who has the codes.. usa, master of puppets Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Are those figures not a little colourful matey.........it's says "cost to Scotland" but in fact the HS2 project has a projected budget of £5 billion in total,!so that wouldn't be just Scotland would it now Just had a look and sorry my mistake, it's £16 billion so you are saying that a tenth of the population pick up 30% of the cost ? How comes ? ive removed the image as it isnt 100% it was expected to cost uk £25 billion, its now £48 billion. my bad scotland is paying 4,771 million pounds the fact of the matter is we can afford to pay for our services and we are paying for stuff scotland doesnt need or use... Bit like how we pay a big chunk of your share of the bail out debt, we don't need that. Also Trident would be a benefit to Scotland seeing it is being built up there. Still the jobs will be welcomed in Portsmouth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Polls are back in favour of the no vote Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,656 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I assume by "need or use" you're referring to Trident among others. You might not need it to do business but if you want a military alliance with NATO you sure as hell need it. It's a nuclear alliance ffs. It terrifies me how defence is treated like a luxury and not a fundamental necessity. Left wing f***ing hippies! LOL how many countries are in nato and how many have nukes, scotland will be in nato mate, our position is one key reason Three nato countries maintain independent nuclear fleets. You won't be in nato because Scotland won't allow forward deployed nukes on their soil. That's against nato terms. The yanks have more influence than anybody and they greatly value the royal navy's ability both conventional and nuclear. Scotland want to heavily restrict that and that'll not go down well with anybody. Your location is strategically strong but with the UK, Norway and Iceland it makes it much less of a necessity. You've shot yourselves in the foot with your vote winning trident stance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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