baw 4,360 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 its all to common these days,and you would seriously think that after the amount of dead kids from dog attacks that we have seen.all dog owners would think twice about thier own charges.its obvious they dont give shit.something will be done,and like always responsible dog owners will suffer.having said that if whatever they do stops another kid from such a horrible death,then its something i will have to accept. think we all know regardless of whos to blame,that this needs sorted,and fast. I have always been paranoid with dogs around kids,and never left mine alone with any,in fact when my family/mates brought there kids into my home,the dog was put away.my current dog is pretty aggressive towards dogs and strangers,and i have no doubt whatsoever he would bite them.so for that reason he is kept in check,and if i had kids living here,he wouldnt be! The problem is, most folk, even on here, don't think there dog would do that, until its too late. It's always someone else, never happen to them. I wouldn't leave any animal, whether it was a cat, dog or whatever with unsupervised access to a child. You might think you know the dog but its an animal at the end of the day. And to be honest, I wouldn't trust children not to provoke the dog either so it's a no brainer for me. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,947 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 They called the dog killer says it all about the fekin morons who owned it i do hope the get lengthy prison sentances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Stories like this are tragic because they are so preventable, we live in a world where everyone has seen the dog training shows and wants to be pack leader it's the general thinking about dogs , we need to subdue them and keep them under the thumb but month after month we get stories of dog attacks why is it happening , It's happening because a dog is like a battery , stimulation energises the dog we see it in our own hunting dog , terriers in particular when hyper stimulated need to ground that Feeling in their body is uncomfortable for them and how they ground is by grabbing something in their jaws and shaking it out that works the charge out and brings their system back to neutral which is a comfort state for the dog , Stimulation in one form or another in a dog doesn't go away , it's stored like energy in a battery and can be so for many years or until maturity , what it waiting for is a trigger , may not be an adult but a child and dogs are more likely they are the path of least resistance, When chatting to people about dogs I try making this point crystal clear , don't stimulate the pup in the house non working homes especially because a lot of these homes have zero outlet for pent up stimulation and like a good running dog who knows to switch on in a certain environment a lot of highly driven bull breeds kept by pet owners only see the house as their greatest area for stimulation that means the home is where they feel they blow off steam and you can only keep the lid on it for so long , if a dog doesn't love to bite something then it badly NEEDS to bite something , it has to bring its system back to neutral , it's like when stress gets too much we flip out and clear the air , stress comes down to us from the boss we take it out on herself or the kids , they become our path of least resistance , like the dog and the poor little child We're just not understanding the nature of the dog , us as working dogs owners have a better insight and know the signs of dogs needing to work but joe public is blind and many believe a dog is just a hairy human , it's not about banning dogs it's about respecting the powerful natural inclination of the canine 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huan72 687 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Very well put Casso, excellent post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,567 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm a huge bulldog fan, but a genuine bulldog type dog has no place in a family home. My dogs are fine with my nephews but I would never dream of leaving them alone together (not worth the chance). If strange kids come to the house the dogs are back in the kennels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General lee 979 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I got a bulldog here in the nine years I've had him he has never shown any kind of aggression to any person but I still would never leave him on his own with anyone it's just not worth the risk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm no lover of bull terrier breeds but most people on here that own them seem to be responsible owners with uears of experience and have the right approach, why anyone would want to own one as a family pet, just waltz up and down the estate as a status symbol and leave them unattended with children is beyond me. I have a daft springer, not a bark in him very submissive to everyone and every other dog, would I leave my 6 year old daughter alone with him, would I f**k. NEVER. I do fear for these bull breeds though, as I say I'm no fan but I wouldn't want to see them banned, but could this be the outcome if these type of events carry on occurring? Genuine question, how does the bull breed community stop these dogs from being owned by idiots?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,567 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 how do we stop coursing dogs getting owned by idiots mate? They wont ban anymore dog breeds I am sure of that. the government spend an average of £20M a year on the DDA and its not working. All you have to do is go on facebook you can find a litter of pitbulls for sale in about 5mins. If anything I can see them scraping the DDA and bringing dog licences back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 17,017 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 RSPCA been there twice it said on radio, if that was coursing dogs they would have been taken A serious dogman once wrote a post on here or another site my memory forgets, saying basically that these dogs belong nowhere near kids, you can talk about I'll socialised or irresponsible owners till the cows come home but the fact is once this type of dog goes, it's not like a shepherd or a collie or a springer, they go in a big way And that's why it's like having a time bomb in your front room, the damage they can inflict with minimal effort is obscene , that's why amongst a part of the lurcher world they are popular as a cross, as that aggression is always there to be utilised No sane person ought to have a dog of that type or cross near kids , 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,567 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 From another point of view didn't the staff\pitbull fair better then a lot of breeds during a temperament test? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brad88 133 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 When i was growing up my old man kept pitbulls and english bull terriers, not once did any of them dogs were aggressive.Reason why they were well socialised and we were never left alone its common sense. I also find alot of mongs breed dogs that are many and breed bull types with guard breeds which is a time bomb waiting 2happen. Its very sad about the poor baby r.i.p kid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,416 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Ive been saying for as long as i can remember.....the further you breed a Pit Bull Terrier away from the pit the more problems you will run into.....im probably biased but for me they are possibly the greatest creation man ever came up with within the animal kingdom.......but never forget what they are,a man made creation to fight until the end ! Formula 1 cars belong on a track......just because you put a roof and a set of alloys on them doesnt mean its ok for a kid to drive one round the estate !!...Keep the performance dogs for sport and the pet dogs for pets and you wont go far wrong....start mixing them up and you,ll have problems. Ive never seen what the Apbt offers as a family pet dog that a hundred other breeds dont.....and im a huge fan of the breed. Edited February 12, 2014 by gnasher16 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,343 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Ive been saying for as long as i can remember.....the further you breed a Pit Bull Terrier away from the pit the more problems you will run into.....im probably biased but for me they are possibly the greatest creation man ever came up with within the animal kingdom.......but never forget what they are,a man made creation to fight until the end ! Formula 1 cars belong on a track......just because you put a roof and a set of alloys on them doesnt mean its ok for a kid to drive one round the estate !!...Keep the performance dogs for sport and the pet dogs for pets and you wont go far wrong....start mixing them up and you,ll have problems. Ive never seen what the Apbt offers as a family pet dog that a hundred other breeds dont.....and im a huge fan of the breed. spot on! Yokel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 i try to get my dogs round my kids as much as possible, but under strict supervision. i think its good to get kids respectful and knowledgeable about how to behave sensibly round dogs, and get the dogs used to the funny noises and jerky movements that kids make, so its no big deal to them. but i always have the dogs under control, dont let them engage in wild romps with the kids or relate to them as a source of entertainment or excitement - kids are just another thing going on in the backgorund of their world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,895 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I am just waiting for the "mine is good as gold, we'll socialized, if you bring it up right......." Type buffoons to rock up and tell us they are no more dangerous than your common or garden yorkie !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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