Owners Standards

[Ideation 8,216]

 

Depends on ground. But if in general, it was missing more than it caught. . . . i'd be asking questions.

so in general you need a dog to be over 50% for it to be doing its job right

 

 

If i'm lamping on fair ground, where i'm slipping expecting a run, i'd want the dog for the most part, catching more than 50% of what it runs. They all get bad luck, but a decent lamp dog on fair ground (not real hard, not piss easy). . . . . i'd expect 60/70 % of what it gets up on, being caught.

 

Having said that, we've all had nights where the dog has missed the first half dozen slips. . .

 

Daytime is a different matter, it will vary a huge amount depending on many variables, but then it's more about the sport, and i'd judge the dog more by its ability to find and work game, rather than catch rate. . . . as if the land is forgiving and it has the attributes ive mentioned, its catch rate will soar.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

If I go local on the golf course, we might run 10. I will be happy with 2 in the bag. 4 would be a fantastic night. So between 20% and 40%.

 

When we went the dales she caught 31 out of 34. That's 91% and at least one of the missed ones she should of caught.

 

So ground is a massive factor to me.

[Giro 2,648]

Daytime catches are a bonus.

 

Lamping i would want do to catch 90 odd percent. Its easy running in some spots old bitch 9 years old caught 21 of 23 slips and a hare,( within the law)

 

Daytime you can walk miles if you dont take ferrets you wont always catch. Somedays get a few and the odd spin.

 

If it was pre ban and i kept hare dogs i would want at least 50 50 .Truthly probly more lol.

 

I have never seen what folk define proper hare stoppers. These top day dogs must be catching 80n90 per cent some days 100 when they are stopping 3s 5s.

 

I enjoy a decent daytime chase and its good to go home with some meat.

[BIGLURKS 874]

Normal night out on rabbit if the dog misses 12 but catches 30 iam fine with that not sure on percentage wise it is but as for other things I don't expect too have a miss if I decide too lamp it should catch it

[paulus 26]

pasture rabbits will turn a 90% dale dog into a 10% dog overnight it is all about terrain, daytime mooching is a lottery unless you can stack the odds in your favour. coursing i will leave to those that have more knowledge to comment as even though i have caught many its never been something i specialised in

[Bosun11 537]

All that % catch rate stuff is bollox IMO, too many variables to judge a dog on it. The dog can either catch or it can't.

It's up to you to ensure you are doing all you can to make a dog both ready and quarry available. Then when all's done, you'll see if a dog can catch or not and you'll judge it on performance not percentages.

[Sirius 1,358]

It's not all about percentage of catch rate? So many other variables.

Every fecker wants a dog that catches everything in front of it, goes without saying. Bit more to it than that.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Sirius

[skycat 6,172]

Why are so many people obsessing about catch rates? Sure, dogs need to catch, but unless you are coursing competitively or trying seriously trying to reduce rabbit numbers, isn't it more about the enjoyment of being out with a dog that is doing what a dog should be doing ... hunting. I get just as much satisfaction from watching my dogs working cover, a scent etc as I do when they catch: well almost!

 

If I wanted to kill everything I saw I'd get a gun.

[paulus 26]

Why are so many people obsessing about catch rates? Sure, dogs need to catch, but unless you are coursing competitively or trying seriously trying to reduce rabbit numbers, isn't it more about the enjoyment of being out with a dog that is doing what a dog should be doing ... hunting. I get just as much satisfaction from watching my dogs working cover, a scent etc as I do when they catch: well almost!

 

If I wanted to kill everything I saw I'd get a gun.

ive got several and the dogs still get more

[TOMO 24,876]

All that % catch rate stuff is bollox IMO, too many variables to judge a dog on it. The dog can either catch or it can't.

It's up to you to ensure you are doing all you can to make a dog both ready and quarry available. Then when all's done, you'll see if a dog can catch or not and you'll judge it on performance not percentages.

What he said,,,

 

I've noticed lads forget easily the quarry the dog misses,,,it's easy to remember the catches,,, a month or two back,, I was out with fella lamping rabbits...we took 18 out of 18 off one field,,,,

 

We took 69 that night,,, wich wasn't bad considering he's a bit of a gimp.....and I had to carry his catch,, cos of his narrow back

[South hams hunter 8,837]

Its not actual catch rate but whether its missing what it shouldn't for me

[killing crew 2,708]

100%

[TROY_BOY 62]

All that % catch rate stuff is bollox IMO, too many variables to judge a dog on it. The dog can either catch or it can't.

It's up to you to ensure you are doing all you can to make a dog both ready and quarry available. Then when all's done, you'll see if a dog can catch or not and you'll judge it on performance not percentages.

i see your point but does catch rate not go a long way to judging a performance

[Giro 2,648]

KC do you lamp your dogs or just daytime only ??

 

 

 

There are variables but lamping you would expect a higher percentage in the bag..

 

If numbers were low and you got 50% every night, 2 from 4 that would be good..

 

If you could run 30 and your dog only caught 15, something would be wrong...

 

Either you cant lamp for toffee and have no field craft or the dogs not up to much or unfit/unwell..

 

Daytime like I said catches are hard won, in comparison to the lamp..

 

Its enjoyable watching dogs quartering fields & lifting gear from the rough/hedge rows.. If Dog was just worrying more gear, than it was ever putting in the bag, what's the point in having a lurcher.. Might aswell take a GWP or a spaniel for a walk.. You cant catch everything but if the dog was just lifting gear and running it, failing to connect and in my opinion it should of caught it and this happened on a regular basis you would question the dogs credentials

 

It is the frill of the chase for me daytime but night times are numbers and catch ratios

 

I like to see a dog trying and working to its full capacity..

 

I expect higher catch rates up here.. Some lands easy with stonewalled rabbits, a schooled dog seldom misses..

 

I don't think my dogs are any better due to this and would expect your average fit lurcher to Mop them up .

 

I would not like to venture down south on these golf course type rabbits with hedge less fields. I would have my eyes open that's for sure.

 

Boils down to what make the individual tick. Its your sport & your dogs, if your happy crack on.

[rob84 112]

If it was about catch rate and percentages i would have shot mine months ago! With me theres a lack of game, and whats left is highly educated so its long slips and hope for the best, my best nights tend to be belive it or not are where there is a full moon, where the dog catches out of the light!