Chid 6,788 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food I could if I got the rest of the trimmings that go with it for serial work swervers Rent paid for Council tax credit Disability living allowence Motorbility (free car) Child benifit Job seekers allowence Etc etc everybody with a child is entitled to child benefit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ? For me, both just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play 35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better Iam skint anyway.New grandson tuesday night.Thats six.Little begers bleed me dry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ? For me, both just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play 35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better Iam skint anyway.New grandson tuesday night.Thats six.Little begers bleed me dry. Sounds like you need a second job mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ? For me, both just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play 35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better Iam skint anyway.New grandson tuesday night.Thats six.Little begers bleed me dry. Sounds like you need a second job mate poundland are taking on i've heard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ? For me, both just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play 35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better Iam skint anyway.New grandson tuesday night.Thats six.Little begers bleed me dry. Sounds like you need a second job mate Why ? She has two Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ? For me, both just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play 35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better Iam skint anyway.New grandson tuesday night.Thats six.Little begers bleed me dry. Sounds like you need a second job mate poundland are taking on i've heard That's him sorted then, and surrounded by affordable gifts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stealthy1 3,964 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 What will they judge to be long-term.A new immigrant or some one who has been out of work for two years. ? For me, both just a question, how much is this going to add to the benifit bill given those organising and implementing it will not be doing it for free, then theres the small matter those signing on are signing to say they are actively seeking work, something that would be hard to do if you're working for nothing in poundland its all bollocks to raise party profiles at these conferences, when universal credit is introduced in 2017 job seekers will be expected to be searching for work for 35hours a week and be able to prove it, theres even talk of them attending job clubs for all these 35hours, all sounds wonderful but the amount paid out to job seekers is probably less than the annual mp`s entertainment bill, kick the less well off a game every tory likes to play 35 hours at job club, or 35 hours in a full time job. As long as they're out of bed before dinner and doing something, then I couldn't give a f**k who's pulling the strings but it will double or triple the benefit bill and i thought the idea was to reduce it well the jobseekers element When they started the back to work scheme in 2012, where folk claiming had to do a work placement, 150,000 signed off? if this new thing gets rid of the scammers, and leaves only those that need help, then I'm all for it but my point is that could be done now at jobcentre level, easy after 2 years no benefits, but universal credit will be administered by the tax office and will be the only available benefit, so all these other civil servants will be added to the dole que I like the 2 year no benefits idea even better Iam skint anyway.New grandson tuesday night.Thats six.Little begers bleed me dry. Sounds like you need a second job mate Why ? She has two Sorted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Can't remember the song but lovely line. I was looking for a job then I found a job - and heaven knows I'm miserable now lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinytiger 872 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 http://rt.com/op-edge/uk-poor-private-prisons-labor-126/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 yea but my point was paulus they are having to pay it from money they get to buy food and clothe themselfs and gas/electric.they have a choice to pay what they can. could you survive on 57 quid a week even if part of your rent was paid it wouldn't even cover my utilities never mind food I could if I got the rest of the trimmings that go with it for serial work swervers Rent paid for Council tax credit Disability living allowence Motorbility (free car) Child benifit Job seekers allowence Etc etc and how many people get all this? ok the baby factory's on jermy kyle get them, but what about the disabled people how CANT work but want to work? like my dad he is f****d he cant stand for more than a houre a day he cant drive for more than a couple of hours a day and he cant sit down for for more than 30 mins he has to get up and walk about. he had a massive car crash about 15 years back and as he says he would love a job but theirs very little he can do! for the last 6 months he has had about £60 a week to live on and rent has backed up to something crazy! add bedroom tax and councle tax and the new gas meter that the rate is unreal and the poor b*****d loved his work and has a wealth of knowlage about all kinds of trades! he would love nothing more than to work untill he dies but cant and it eats him up ime the same i now live at home now after redundancy, with my mentaly disabled mam and 13 year old brother!and all 3 go to counseling due to stress and depression! i would honestly say we are below the poverty line! i have just started to sing on and give all of it to my parents, i would love to know how thease people you hear about with massive houses and 50k a year on benefits do it because i would be doing the same! if it was not for me catching game and fish we would have gone hungry a lot and yet thru all this he still dose as much volentary work as he can my mam works in a oxfam shop 5 days a week and dad dose pickups for the shop the odd garden for folk and takes a couple of OAPs from the village shopping every week to give back, he has run youth clubs at the school as good a people as you could wish for and the system is killing them turning to crime ha, its ok until it goes wrong 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R.A.W 1,987 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 now normally I read a thread but ffs........................... It's slave labour . I'm up for getting people back to work but if there's a job to do for someone then pay them a wage to do it and problem solved 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zigzag dan 784 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Ive worked and paid in for 31yrs , if I needed to sign on and ended up out of work for 2yrs why should I be made to work unpaid as though I need to be punished ? The benefit system could be sorted out overnight , stop giving to immigrants , make it that you should have paid in for 2 years before you can sign on , we are a small country who is over populated , theres too many people , too few jobs , houses and resources . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) You'd think with all the money we dump, into this system, they'd have a way of being able to sift through and help the genuine cases. It looks great as a sound bite but it sure, as f**k, doesn't help the people that need it. Only those that want it. Edited September 28, 2013 by ChrisJones 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Working for money? Whatever will they think of next? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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