mackay 3,612 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Interesting that he has gone to Congress, is that standard for the states with this? Or is it as a result of the UK parliament not playing ball? He's looking for stronger home support now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 feck the lot of them.........as long as I go out with the dogs tomorrow,...........that's what matters.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,612 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Interesting that he has gone to Congress, is that standard for the states with this? Or is it as a result of the UK parliament not playing ball? He's looking for stronger home support now? Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Coincidentally he's now calling the French Americas oldest allies. Edited August 31, 2013 by mackay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Interesting that he has gone to Congress, is that standard for the states with this? Or is it as a result of the UK parliament not playing ball? He's looking for stronger home support now? Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Coincidentally he's now calling the French Americas oldest allies. Technically they are, but clearly it's a dig at the UK. I can't help but feel parliament has made us look weak, I know as Brits we sorta want to stick it to the yanks and this will give a lot that buzz but our relationship with them should be carefully nurtured, they are a hell of an ally to have in this world, I would hate to see us loose that. Though I think it's important to remember that we are out for the moment, given stronger intelligence we may well be back in. I'd just like to have seen the whole thing go down differently, I'd like to have seen the yanks share their intelligence with us so parliament could have made their decision with all the facts on the table. Makes you wonder about our 'special relationship' though considering these haven't been shared? It's also worth remembering what would have happened if we were to get involved, It would have been similar to Libya, pretty much entirely RAF and RN, not another Iraq! Cost would have been minimal and risk low. That's not justification but all this talk of another war and more troops in body bags is just talk. Syria has a capable military but the RN and RAF are far more capable and know what they are doing. Our growing Naval power will keep the the link between Washington and London tight, long term it shouldn't make a difference..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,612 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 If they expect us as a country to go the distance with them, then intelligence sharing should be the norm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve55 1 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Rebels Admit Responsibility for Chemical Weapons Attack in Syria The source is respectable and is on the scene right now investigating this matter.Dale Gavlak is a Middle East correspondent for Mint Press News and the Associated Press. Gavlak has been stationed in Amman, Jordan for the Associated Press for over two decades. An expert in Middle Eastern Affairs, Gavlak currently covers the Levant region of the Middle East for AP, National Public Radio and Mint Press News, writing on topics including politics, social issues and economic trends. Dale holds a M.A. in Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Chicago. Contact Dale at dgavlak@mintpressnews.comYahya Ababneh is a Jordanian freelance journalist and is currently working on a master’s degree in journalism, He has covered events in Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Libya. His stories have appeared on Amman Net, Saraya News, Gerasa News and elsewhere. http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/ http://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/ Edited September 1, 2013 by steve55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve55 1 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Rebels caught using Chemicals previously in Syria:This is from months back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtctMdIMLbA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ighdPENvs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve55 1 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Funny thing is people have been saying they would FRAME assad for a chemical attack as an excuse for bombing Syria. Video below is from last year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbMdll58lis http://www.youtube.com/user/SyrianGirlpartisan/videos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve55 1 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Can people recall Gulf war 1 and the story that Iraq was throwing babies out of incubators? THis whole lie for a set up by the CIA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 208 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Britain WILL be involved once it kicks off ! Bet your last pound on it, never mind the stuff your reading in the papers and watching on tv. Once it starts British troops will be in amongst it ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Technically they are, but clearly it's a dig at the UK. I can't help but feel parliament has made us look weak, I know as Brits we sorta want to stick it to the yanks and this will give a lot that buzz but our relationship with them should be carefully nurtured, they are a hell of an ally to have in this world, I would hate to see us loose that. Though I think it's important to remember that we are out for the moment, given stronger intelligence we may well be back in. I'd just like to have seen the whole thing go down differently, I'd like to have seen the yanks share their intelligence with us so parliament could have made their decision with all the facts on the table. Makes you wonder about our 'special relationship' though considering these haven't been shared? It's also worth remembering what would have happened if we were to get involved, It would have been similar to Libya, pretty much entirely RAF and RN, not another Iraq! Cost would have been minimal and risk low. That's not justification but all this talk of another war and more troops in body bags is just talk. Syria has a capable military but the RN and RAF are far more capable and know what they are doing. Our growing Naval power will keep the the link between Washington and London tight, long term it shouldn't make a difference..... One of the things that really sticks in my throat is that twat Milliband having something to crow about.. He asked Cameron to make a load of concessions with the wording of the vote, which he did, then shot it down anyway to score political points and made the government of the united kingdom look weak in the eyes of the world.. I'm no fan of the Tories but the thought of that simpering prick as prime minister don't bear thinking about.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,791 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Interesting that he has gone to Congress, is that standard for the states with this? Or is it as a result of the UK parliament not playing ball? He's looking for stronger home support now? Obama is up for military action it seems. Congress being recalled. Coincidentally he's now calling the French Americas oldest allies. Technically they are, but clearly it's a dig at the UK. I can't help but feel parliament has made us look weak, I know as Brits we sorta want to stick it to the yanks and this will give a lot that buzz but our relationship with them should be carefully nurtured, they are a hell of an ally to have in this world, I would hate to see us loose that. Though I think it's important to remember that we are out for the moment, given stronger intelligence we may well be back in. I'd just like to have seen the whole thing go down differently, I'd like to have seen the yanks share their intelligence with us so parliament could have made their decision with all the facts on the table. Makes you wonder about our 'special relationship' though considering these haven't been shared? It's also worth remembering what would have happened if we were to get involved, It would have been similar to Libya, pretty much entirely RAF and RN, not another Iraq! Cost would have been minimal and risk low. That's not justification but all this talk of another war and more troops in body bags is just talk. Syria has a capable military but the RN and RAF are far more capable and know what they are doing. Our growing Naval power will keep the the link between Washington and London tight, long term it shouldn't make a difference..... Do you think that Lybia was a good idea? I was working there just before the war and things we changing albeit slowly. Blair had done the 'deal in the dessert' and BP was starting to drill oil wells as were many other Western companies. Life in Libya didn't look so bad from what I saw and capitalism was arriving there slowly. In the end we deposed a dictator and in it's place we've allowed Islamists to take over the very people we have been fighting for the last god knows how many years. I don't think that is any coincidence, it seems like we've lost the war against them and now are currying favour by helping them, those countries wont be any better off after our intervention look at Egypt for an example. Imagine for a minute how many innocent people have been murdered by the islamists since the end of the war in Libya anyone in the wrong tribe and in the wrong place will have been imprisoned or even killed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Nik_B 3,791 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Looks like someone is doing a little bit of back tracking. I suppose the prospect of having the French watch your back isn't quite as appealing http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10278572/Now-Obama-puts-Syria-strike-on-ice.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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