WILF 44,334 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) My opinion is that folk who are not familiar with those type of people wrongly assume that the " other" part of people's life must figure heavily in just knowing them. The fact is it doesn't come up, it's not mentioned or thought about.......no different than a painter & decorator doesn't come home and talk about paint all the time As grown men we do however have to be honest about that " other" part of people's life's and not see it through rosé coloured specs.......it's ugly, ugly as f**k. As I said before, there are some lovely blokes and some right horrible b*****ds, same a with any walk of life, but it don't make what they sometimes do " all right " Obviously, all of the above is just my own guesswork and assumption Edited March 26, 2013 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferretville 69 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Im sure in that iceman book he got sent to do a job in vegas to take 1 guy out , but ended up whacking the family aswell . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 As I said before, there are some lovely blokes and some right horrible b*****ds, same a with any walk of life, but it don't make what they sometimes do " all right " My opinion is that the genuinely " horrible b*****ds " dont last...............and the decent people regardless of how they earn dough....do last. Thats only a theory based on very basic belief in my fellow man in that ultimately you get what you deserve. People like the old timers spoken of here.....Mclean/Shaw/Richardsons etc all but for tragic illness lived out a good life to a decent age...........the " horrible b*****ds " tend not to reach retirement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,334 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 As I said before, there are some lovely blokes and some right horrible b*****ds, same a with any walk of life, but it don't make what they sometimes do " all right " My opinion is that the genuinely " horrible b*****ds " dont last...............and the decent people regardless of how they earn dough....do last.Thats only a theory based on very basic belief in my fellow man in that ultimately you get what you deserve. People like the old timers spoken of here.....Mclean/Shaw/Richardsons etc all but for tragic illness lived out a good life to a decent age...........the " horrible b*****ds " tend not to reach retirement. I will disagree with you there mate, it's a lotto and you just don't know what's round the corner no matter who you are or how you behave, when your times up, it's up especially if someone is moving in that type of world..........just my opinion like. f**k me, it's gonna make for an interesting evening at York Hall if we ever manage to fix that up ! Lol lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flinty 19 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 seems like the ice man is fabricated he links himself to all the big hits of the time but never no other mention of him been on hit other than himself like the ones with demeo,castellano,gigante and the bloke who killed john gottis lad and many more 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antg 1,729 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 seems like the ice man is fabricated he links himself to all the big hits of the time but never no other mention of him been on hit other than himself like the ones with demeo,castellano,gigante and the bloke who killed john gottis lad and many more what ever the truth is old Walter was a very bad man. i watched the documentaries on him and i think he was every bit a bad, sick individual Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I will disagree with you there mate, it's a lotto and you just don't know what's round the corner no matter who you are or how you behave, when your times up, it's up especially if someone is moving in that type of world..........just my opinion like. f**k me, it's gonna make for an interesting evening at York Hall if we ever manage to fix that up ! Lol lol Its a different world now Wilf......years ago if you was at it....you still needed some kind of quality....be that physical or mental...... Today its simply a case of " whos willing to go the furthest ".............today a weak minded 9 stone spotty teenager with zero personality can be the most dangerous and respected guy on the manor..........for a little while. Those old timers however nasty still had very basic human qualities physical or mental......which is what gave them longevity. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,334 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I will disagree with you there mate, it's a lotto and you just don't know what's round the corner no matter who you are or how you behave, when your times up, it's up especially if someone is moving in that type of world..........just my opinion like. f**k me, it's gonna make for an interesting evening at York Hall if we ever manage to fix that up ! Lol lol Its a different world now Wilf......years ago if you was at it....you still needed some kind of quality....be that physical or mental......Today its simply a case of " whos willing to go the furthest ".............today a weak minded 9 stone spotty teenager with zero personality can be the most dangerous and respected guy on the manor..........for a little while. Those old timers however nasty still had very basic human qualities physical or mental......which is what gave them longevity. Now that I will agree with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 6,842 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 I really cant see how anyone can have anything good to say about the Krays.Just a pair of queer nonces. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,961 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Read Freddie Foremans Book , good read . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,212 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 How bout that Dave Courtney, now that is a funny fella (in lots of senses of the word funny ). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,334 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 How bout that Dave Courtney, now that is a funny fella (in lots of senses of the word funny ). What about him ! Lol lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Its full of them gun runners international drug dealers. Land grabbers all in one place The palace of westminister doing it gangster stlye for over. 250 years !! Edited March 26, 2013 by gonetoearth 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,211 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Interesting reading lads I'll speak from personal experience, my father made a lot of money a long time ago because of his physicality and aggression.... It cost him his wife and kids for a lot of years, one "friend" died in prison after getting life for double murder... He wrote a book whilst inside... He also went to his grave owing my dad a lot of money.. It meant both me and my brother had a different upbringing, which I wouldn't want for my kids.... There's always been glorification and some type of romance around some criminals, but I think there's a lot of heart ache involved with this way of life..... and I'm not for one minute trying to paint my father in the same light as anyone else mentioned on this thread, that would be stupid, it's just funny how violence can be looked upon with any type of romantic notion.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brockdog 285 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 http://youtu.be/Tv4c3flhSaU 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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