gnasher16 29,602 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 The krays had sex with and pimped under age boys to MP's regardless of what else they did or achieved threw violence, murder and intimidation! IMO they deserve the title of nonce. As far as Iam concerned they are in the same catergory as Jimmy savile. You know for 100% fact the krays had sex with children ?.....if your not being swayed by films or malicious gossip etc then wow you must of been at the heart of the inner circle to know that information.....and if you was why didnt you stop it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 The krays had sex with and pimped under age boys to MP's regardless of what else they did or achieved threw violence, murder and intimidation! IMO they deserve the title of nonce. As far as Iam concerned they are in the same catergory as Jimmy savile. You know for 100% fact the krays had sex with children ?.....if your not being swayed by films or malicious gossip etc then wow you must of been at the heart of the inner circle to know that information.....and if you was why didnt you stop it ! Ha that's funny Gnasher - like Ronnie Kray would listened to someone trying to put a stop to to his deviant boy thing???? Doubt it - didn't he pop Cornell for calling him a "fat poof" - it seems to be accepted as fact that RK had a penchant for boys!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 The krays had sex with and pimped under age boys to MP's regardless of what else they did or achieved threw violence, murder and intimidation! IMO they deserve the title of nonce. As far as Iam concerned they are in the same catergory as Jimmy savile. You know for 100% fact the krays had sex with children ?.....if your not being swayed by films or malicious gossip etc then wow you must of been at the heart of the inner circle to know that information.....and if you was why didnt you stop it ! Ha that's funny Gnasher - like Ronnie Kray would listened to someone trying to put a stop to to his deviant boy thing???? Doubt it - didn't he pop Cornell for calling him a "fat poof" - it seems to be accepted as fact that RK had a penchant for boys!!!! Gnasher would have stopped its hes massive and well ard lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,093 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 mam had a glass of champagne,,love that bit micky,, i know what you mean,,kids today dont realise what a little story means to people like us, that grew up in them days,, hard but the best time's...... would i wont to be young again these days,,,no chance,take me back to the heady days of growing up in the 50/60's.. yes please................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,602 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Ha that's funny Gnasher - like Ronnie Kray would listened to someone trying to put a stop to to his deviant boy thing???? Doubt it - didn't he pop Cornell for calling him a "fat poof" - it seems to be accepted as fact that RK had a penchant for boys!!!! If you look at it logically instead of the film/malicious gossip etc.........the Krays employed hard " take no shit " type of men.....big strong men who were respected and feared in equal measures....... are we to believe they were so fearful of a couple of 5 ft 10 inch brothers that they would turn a blind eye to them being paedophiles ?......That respected people like Freddie Foreman or the Lambrianous were too petrified of 2 brothers to say " no thats wrong "..........you think hard uncompromising men would be ok working with and for kiddly fiddlers ?...........I think sometimes stories and the way characters are portrayed can become so exaggerated sometimes the reality is lost and you end up just having to use common sense. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Milwr Jr. 99 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 There are a fair few lads on this site from in and around London and I am sure some of you or your parents grew up in around these fellas ..... My question is this were the likes of Lenny McLean Roy shaw etc real bad boys or have books telly and the media in general hyped them up and made them out to be villains when infact they were just hard blokes that you respected and crossed at your peril ...... We all know about the Krays and the richardsons etc but I would be interested to hear about the less infamous people ......... Read Dave Courtney's book. He's got some stories, and he's a lesser known London crook. Also, don't believe any of the bullshit Freddie Foreman claims to have done, he was a moderately tough publican who knew some villains. That is all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Ha that's funny Gnasher - like Ronnie Kray would listened to someone trying to put a stop to to his deviant boy thing???? Doubt it - didn't he pop Cornell for calling him a "fat poof" - it seems to be accepted as fact that RK had a penchant for boys!!!! If you look at it logically instead of the film/malicious gossip etc.........the Krays employed hard " take no shit " type of men.....big strong men who were respected and feared in equal measures....... are we to believe they were so fearful of a couple of 5 ft 10 inch brothers that they would turn a blind eye to them being paedophiles ?......That respected people like Freddie Foreman or the Lambrianous were too petrified of 2 brothers to say " no thats wrong "..........you think hard uncompromising men would be ok working with and for kiddly fiddlers ?...........I think sometimes stories and the way characters are portrayed can become so exaggerated sometimes the reality is lost and you end up just having to use common sense. People with no morals couldn't give two fcuks what the ones paying them get up too, as long as they pay them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) Ha that's funny Gnasher - like Ronnie Kray would listened to someone trying to put a stop to to his deviant boy thing???? Doubt it - didn't he pop Cornell for calling him a "fat poof" - it seems to be accepted as fact that RK had a penchant for boys!!!! If you look at it logically instead of the film/malicious gossip etc.........the Krays employed hard " take no shit " type of men.....big strong men who were respected and feared in equal measures....... are we to believe they were so fearful of a couple of 5 ft 10 inch brothers that they would turn a blind eye to them being paedophiles ?......That respected people like Freddie Foreman or the Lambrianous were too petrified of 2 brothers to say " no thats wrong "..........you think hard uncompromising men would be ok working with and for kiddly fiddlers ?...........I think sometimes stories and the way characters are portrayed can become so exaggerated sometimes the reality is lost and you end up just having to use common sense. People with no morals couldn't give two fcuks what the ones paying them get up too, as long as they pay them. true mate,they all turn a blind eye because there so money driven and cant do a days graft the Krays would have had Kevin Webster working for them if he was around in there days.lol Edited March 27, 2013 by billy whizz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr scent 665 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 "Watch my back" by some door man fella from coventry is a good book,he done martial arts and comes over not such a meat head gongsta as most do.Very good chapter on adrenalin and how it affects everyone and how to handle it,can't remember the fell'as name though, geoff thompson ,excellent read ,the fight against granite jaw was epic lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 The krays had sex with and pimped under age boys to MP's regardless of what else they did or achieved threw violence, murder and intimidation! IMO they deserve the title of nonce. As far as Iam concerned they are in the same catergory as Jimmy savile. You know for 100% fact the krays had sex with children ?.....if your not being swayed by films or malicious gossip etc then wow you must of been at the heart of the inner circle to know that information.....and if you was why didnt you stop it ! Do you know for 100% fact they didnt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,182 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 That Dave Courtney has got to be some type of pillock aint he?........f***ing state of the man in his cheap suits all done up like a dogs dinner. Seen the state of his gaff at Plumstead?.....what is all that about? Cant make up his mind if he wants to be a spade or a white bloke. Fair play, he is earning a few quid off the poeple who like all that sort of thing, but its embarrssing ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Milwr Jr. 99 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Ha that's funny Gnasher - like Ronnie Kray would listened to someone trying to put a stop to to his deviant boy thing???? Doubt it - didn't he pop Cornell for calling him a "fat poof" - it seems to be accepted as fact that RK had a penchant for boys!!!! If you look at it logically instead of the film/malicious gossip etc.........the Krays employed hard " take no shit " type of men.....big strong men who were respected and feared in equal measures....... are we to believe they were so fearful of a couple of 5 ft 10 inch brothers that they would turn a blind eye to them being paedophiles ?......That respected people like Freddie Foreman or the Lambrianous were too petrified of 2 brothers to say " no thats wrong "..........you think hard uncompromising men would be ok working with and for kiddly fiddlers ?...........I think sometimes stories and the way characters are portrayed can become so exaggerated sometimes the reality is lost and you end up just having to use common sense. People with no morals couldn't give two fcuks what the ones paying them get up too, as long as they pay them. true mate,they all turn a blind eye because there so money driven and cant do a days graft I believe it was Charles Luciano ("Lucky") who said: "You need just as good a brain to make a crooked million as an honest million" And I'd wager that he knew how to "graft" also, considering he consolidated the entire American Mafia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy whizz 141 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/jummy-savile-edward-heath-and-kray-twins.html sausage jockeys lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,203 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 That Dave Courtney has got to be some type of pillock aint he?........f*****g state of the man in his cheap suits all done up like a dogs dinner. Seen the state of his gaff at Plumstead?.....what is all that about? Cant make up his mind if he wants to be a spade or a white bloke. Fair play, he is earning a few quid off the poeple who like all that sort of thing, but its embarrssing ! the Crown prosecuting Counsel who categorically stated that Dave Courtney was a registered police informer, and had been given the imaginary name of 'Tommy Mack' to hide his real identity. LINKhttp://www.madfrankiefraser.co.uk/viewpoints/views38.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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