Tracy Priestnall
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violent breed .. nightmare to kennel ..put it down as a bad plan and forget it
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vary useful dog's in a bobbery pack' known many, many top knotch whippet crosses but most 1st cross will not catch in a fair run .. as for size in bushing dog's i think ' shape ' is more important you don't see 21" springier spaniel's belly-crawl in bramble or gorse yet they are the same size as a whippet. kev..medlock crew
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voice .. let's you know the cover is ' holding ' and give's you the direction the quarry is taking, plus it keep's the pack together ,which pro-long's a hunt . if your quarry sneak's out the back of a bramble only one dog might see it go , if the dog give's tongue the other dog's will fly to the lead dog. on bushing dog's it depend's on land,or terrain and which quarry ,also do you want a find and flush dog or a find and chase dog, or a find and hunt dog ?
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Minshaw had a dog , 21-22" rough fawn called rusty , daytime dog more than a lamper and it had ' freak ' stamina and carried Kerry blue blood. rusty x collie/greyhound produced the invincible blue, over 80lb running weight. .. that's how the family ,or strain started. they favour collie /greyhounds but with more 'fire ' vary tough ,hardy dog's bred for ' wholesale ' lamping . know for their 'freak ' stamina .. you can pick a minshaw out at any show and their are plenty who still keep them with 5-6-7 lines to minshaws blue . vic had an advert in the old shooting new's challenging any dog in t
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some say the long houndy ears on beddys are from the tweed spaniel ? they also say that the airedale is of hound ancestry...yet it is known now as a air-scenting pointer ! only hounds hunt like hounds is true but they are not the only dogs that hunt as a pack. i dont believe any terrier pack can hunt a hare for an hour, which is why i want to know if its true,i dont mind being proven wrong. kev-medlock
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at last a plummer owner with some jacobs...nice one, i agree that most terriers pack well and i never agreed with brian when he said different, i dont agree with him that scottish breeds of terrier dont pack either but he bred a nice strain of terriers. if these plummers can really hunt on as you say its a shame they are only known for ratting. do they bay on a line or just pack tighter than most terriers ? KEV-medlock crew
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both lurchers and terriers rely on hearing more than we realize,they'll hear movement ahead of them in cover and charge forward so a dog should hunt up in silence and open up once game is found, either on immediate scent or sight, obviously hound and gun dog crosses are a bit different again. hounds find once they hit a scent, fresh or old. terriers and lurchers find once they jump up a rabbit, fox, rat, etc so they should only open up once they have found...which is what the majority of terriers do. voice is not vital in a bushing dog spaniels are silent. modern spaniels, the spaniels o
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bonny pups...best time to have them, not had time for howt to go wrong yet ! just seen in this weeks c m w a litter of irish terrier x whippet, to far for me...warwickshire, but i would snap one of them up skycat- we are back to size again, when i was a lad we were always told that nothing could beat terriers in cover, their size let them get under tight cover better than any other breeds, in spaniels they favour big burly 20 inch dogs for heavy cover. your tiny, thin coated pup sounds all wrong on paper, particularly for heavy cover, but we have all seen poor coated dogs grafted cov
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i have seen plummers work but was disapointed to see absolutely no hound traits, glen welsby a k a glen well-baised..only joking.... of the original club says he hunts hares for over an hour with his pack. jackie drakesford says she as seen plummers meld into a pack unlike other terriers. i know plummer inbred and line bred his dogs and so kept the beagle blood circulating up to todays stock, but plummers are still 75%, or more, terrier blood. if old dog keeps plummers give him a shout, or any plummer breeder...nice one. kev -medlock crew
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brian never said his terriers , apart from the original beagle first crosses , hunted like hounds but many who keep plummers say they do show hound,or beagle traits, whats the truth? kev-medlock crew
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the late brian plummer outcrossed to beagle as we all know, the few plummers i have seen and the many shown on ratting films hunt just like any other terriers yet i keep being told they pack better than other terriers, have the best nose, and hunt like hounds. is this true, do plummers show any hound traits, do they hunt like hounds or terriers ? the original out-cross happened thirty ago now. curiously plummer himself never referred to his terriers , apart from the original beagle first crosses, as hunting like . love to know the truth, not a plummer terrier hater, not a plummer terrier f
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if your man is paying good money ive a good rough coated russell here and a tin of blue paint, always up for a deal
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Rspca......lack Of Rights
Tracy Priestnall replied to gravedigger's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
acts of law are not the law. if the r s p c a come a knocking with the po-lice as enforcers...what then? ask if the warrent as been signed by a judge on his oath, 99% it wil be signed by a justice of the peace which is a snide warrent. ask the po-lice if they are standing on their oath. tell them from the from the start that you are not a member of r s p c a and have no contract with them and dont consent...and always, always film them if you have a mobile. hunting with hounds, coursing, digging, etc are illegal but they are NOT unlawful. any law with the word ACT in it is not the law -
p s. .... hobson isnt a beagler ,he is a country matters free lancer, his book on terriers as been voted the worse book written on the subject and it is...it baffles him why terriers were ever kept before fox-hunting? his book on beagles is just copy-cat writing.
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hare hunting by w lovell-hewett, lonsdale libary is the best book ever written on beagling, as good as lloyds if not better. personally, these days google a k c beagle trials. try better beagle magazine, or beagles unlimited. you tube... carrying the line part 1-2 , u k packs are now harriers running under the name beagles, try the yanks they do know their beagles. kev-medlock crew
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sure that bloke on the third horse is john Wayne!...that white hound got a whooping, and did you see the blue tick. top footage. hard to get the balance of gameness right in stand at bay hounds if too game they rush in and get a wallop, if not game enough they stay to far back and are ineffective. once old tom is fond it is mainly sight-hunting. kev -medlock crew
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aint he dibble...or x dibble!
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i am well aware of edwards but hes not in the film
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skycat..if anyone round here goes to buy a adult bushing dog we always say check its ears, if they are tattered its probably done a season, if they are leathered over you know its seen some cover. if anyone ever sets about breeding the ultimate bushing dog start with good covered ears like a spaniel...don't Airedales have covered ears or is that just the rougher ones? back to this post i know whippet crosses as lurchers ,like everyone ive seen plenty out in field and the majority make decent dogs...some are top knotch. but i think they could be even better, id love to see a 5 eighth ter
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lets be real they were bred to fight...but bully and mastiff types are an important part of any bob--bery pack used on large or dangerous quarry. nick valentine runs a few leggy, bully types with his griffon pack...as catch dogs. kev-medlock crew
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how can you give hand signals to a dog in deep cover? how can you whistle it to go right or left if you cannot see it? i don't train my dogs, they are obedient, taught over time out in the fields. some packs are well trained. for example you cant train a dog not to chase cows, you take it out and show it not to chase cows, so you school pack dogs rather than train them, even on a recall, if the dog is in cover, you might be shouting it back just as the dog as found its quarry...now your trying to call it off its quarry. in big cover, gorse, bramble you have to trust the dogs to hunt for th
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bushing dog, cover dog, flushing dogs...they are all finding dogs, some find and flush, some find and hunt, and some find and chase/catch. kev-medlock crew
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russell x whippet, you tube jack hargreaves, out of town, one russ x whip shown ferreting. kev-medlock crew
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all dogs have nose including bulls...but a dog doesn't need a good nose to be a good hunter, you can have a poor nosed dog that is still a great hunter. its called hunting by bodily presence. one of the biggest arguments in spaniels today is that the modern field trial winners, who stud out for grands, don't hunt by nose but by sheer drive, they put a lot of birds up and win well but they are hunting by bodily presence...so it doesn't matter if they have good nose or not, if they keep entering cover and pushing threw game will jump. a dog that marks a rabbit earth is worth its weight
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now they are a bonny looking beast, how tall...keep us posted over the season.how have they turned out so nice, on paper i would of thought you get monsters from a terrier x hound. i could find work for them...lovely animals, in fine fettle. kev-medlock crew.