cheers for the info, a quick update, day 10 hes fine in himself now, his panting has stopped now hes off the anti inflamatories, his pins are showing less and hes eating for england. he still looks wierd as his front end is muscular, his back legs are muscular yet he has nothing on his loin and middle. hes still on short road walks roughly 2 miles twice a day. if everything keeps improving this week i will move onto free excercise next week although i must admit im worried another acident will happen.