Just mass produced garbage then eh TC, well that wont do for one of Joks efforts with the home made pastry, but it goes alright on my jacket tatties with hare, or venison casserole, i'll have to get myself down to the farmers market on the third saturday of every month at Tynemouth train station, and see what i am missing out on, it's just too easy to buy all kinds of crud from the big shops these days