Are they falling out of popularity due to the likes of Brittany's or GSP GWP ... Personally I think they are very good dogs but saying that I only experience of hunting over English pointers and springers other than the setters... I trained up. My own bitch this summer she only has 4 birds shot over her but was very trainable took to retrieving no problem stay command no hassle,they have plenty speed to cover open moor when necessary I don't see why they aren't more popular... I'll put pictures of mine up tomorrow once I'm on the laptop