well, funny you should ask, as much as Id like an o/u or semi, money is a bit tight at the moment, but Im picking up another pedretti hushpower in 12g single on saturday, my one and only shooting permission, has never let anyone shoot shotguns on the land, Ive had air rifle permission for 3yrs, I showed him the 410 hushpower and he was ok with me using it there, even commented today that he hadent heard a thing while I was shooting, so Im hoping a hushpower 12g will give simular results on the noise, plus its relativly cheap as a learning tool