in the early days i do believe having read it somewhere cci made all the17hmr rounds as they were the only people with the kit to do it, Correct. They are all made in the same factory. strange that all them threads as to which is best I know its funny. I have never found a difference between any of the ballistic tips. I use hornady red/blue tip, and my mate uses remingtons. We both interchange with no shift of zero if either one of us runs out. Maybe though that is testimony of the CZ 452 varmint. They are not all, always the same, there are batch differences as with any ammo, and there is