why piss about with pro plan , i get our pups on minced hearts at 3 weeks sometimes vary it with tinned cat food [ smaller chunks in cat food] they get warm milk in the morning and mince then minced sheeps hearts in the afternoon and maybe some soaked biscuit csj pup biccy for supper and theyve all done fine, just make sure you supplement the mother with calcium and vits and you will have no probs, at b top