ime using a toyota picnic dont laugh 7 seater taken 2 back seats out and loads of room for the dogs and still 5 seater 2.2 deisel people carrier.a fair bit of heigth for rough ground all the ones been out in it with me are very impressed with it .and bonus is it doesnt look like a dog car ideal for next season on the long ears just been serviced and new clutch and cam belt so raring to go .and it will piss all over a kia sportage for room speed and fuel consumption lol.