Its not over til i say so ,lol.Looking at the fors and against ,and i realise its no real poll only a summary of the thread, but the against far outway the fors and from some very experienced non dmq holders too .The diagrams you lads swear by are flawed ,seriously in some cases but you wont dare look or feel inside a deer to prove otherwise just incase the bible is wrong .It appears certain AW's wet nurse their students through to a pass ,scoring points with the board no doubt for a high pass rate.What is apparent is that you blokes spend too much time thinking about best practice than doing