yes but even the bigger types will still knock over rabbits, and pre ban give a good acount on fox+ deer, they aint as slow mate as they look as i said to you. your mate who had them in the 70s, got a 1x big heavy fecker now lol in New Zealand catching loads of game (pigs,rabbit,deer, bob cat) they aint that slow mate
Ray, i know you dont like to mention in when chatting............. But im looking forward to seeing your pup grow and develop when you get it, and i know who you are refering to in NZ, we chat a lot and his shepherd line has been doing the business for 20 odd year