Just make silly offers on loads someone is always desperate my first boat I bought for 6k after seeing it for sale at 14k emailed the bloke for 3 months before he finally accepted and I sold it on for 13 after 12 years of use also vw are artificially high priced and not really that good some of the jap imports are really well kitted out for not strong money I bought mine on the 21st December when no one is looking and people need a raise to pay for it all the bloke told me to f**k off when i made the offer them emailed me a couple of days after and accepted lol