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#3226 hutch6

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 05:33 pm

haha your getting extreme here now hutchy, marry was a virgin , immaculate conception, an its fine if you dont beleive, thats your free will, no ones stopping you but your getting angry weman, I can tell by your loose talk, so you do want you want an il keep the faith, but here if you can find any evidence to say bible wrong or whatever, il be willing to discuss.

I've got nothing to be angry or extreme about.

 

The Bible is all about faith. You either believe what is says or you don't. Even those that were best friends with Jesus were told to have faith, not fact. It's not proven fact at all, especially going on the stuff you've brought up. You can't even bring yourself to face up to the documented fact and self proclaimed admission that Hitler was a believer in the bible, from his own mouth whilst in power and whilst at war. Seriously deluded.

 

You keep your faith Fraz, just don't confuse it with fact.



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 05:34 pm

When you are at your weakest god shows you his strength .he came not only to take away sin but disease and infirmaties

So he's a doctor now. Fraz might have something to say on that as man has not evolved as far as education and knowledge goes for quite some time yet anti-biotics, vaccinations, medical treatments and indeed general knowledge of basic medical procedures have all been massive milestones in recent times that have only benefitted mankind.
 
Rhetorical question for all of the believers. You or your wife are unable to conceive naturally or you have a child that is born prematurely and will not survive without medical assistance or they won't survive to adulthood without a long period of medical support or you develop a terminal illness that is preventable through medical treatment, do you accept the treatment in either case or do you believe your faith, prayers and God's will will be enough to see you through in each case as it is either God's will that you won't be able to conceive, have a poorly child or develop a terminal illness?
Well there are loads of cases of healing disease and sickness by Jesus working through a person with faith that is present at the sick bed etc.man has advanced medically but the cures are there already created by god .man is just discovering them
Not necessarily, I'm sure you've heard of spontaneous healing where people suffering from diseases such as cancer go on a visit to some holy place and miraculously get cured. It's the expectation and euphoria that heals them.
Is it now?

No it's God....

#3228 frazdog

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 05:51 pm

You keep dreaming about hitler mate, nazi party big occult men, but you say otherwise no nother.

Hutchy your arent even debating your just spouting atheist poo poo, an as you said you cant prove nothing, your words not mine.


I done this to death already for pages an pages, an it was a waste, cause it was just slaging back an forward, now last time im saying this, you have a big gripe with the bible, but I take it literal, so point out specifically your gripe, an we can move on

#3229 kevin kiely

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:05 pm

[quote name="DogFox123" post="3835825" timestamp="1421170470"][quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835606" timestamp="1421156535"][quote name="DogFox123" post="3835529" timestamp="1421151385"][quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835519" timestamp="1421150069"][quote name="hutch6" post="3835514" timestamp="1421149569"][quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835509" timestamp="1421149110"]
When you are at your weakest god shows you his strength .he came not only to take away sin but disease and infirmaties[/quote]So he's a doctor now. Fraz might have something to say on that as man has not evolved as far as education and knowledge goes for quite some time yet anti-biotics, vaccinations, medical treatments and indeed general knowledge of basic medical procedures have all been massive milestones in recent times that have only
Not necessarily, I'm sure you've heard of spontaneous healing where people suffering from diseases such as cancer go on a visit to some holy place and miraculously get cured. It's the expectation and euphoria that heals them.[/quote]
Is it now?[/quote]

No it's God....[/quote]

I know

#3230 DogFox123

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 06:27 pm

[quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835876" timestamp="1421172337"]

[quote name="DogFox123" post="3835825" timestamp="1421170470"][quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835606" timestamp="1421156535"][quote name="DogFox123" post="3835529" timestamp="1421151385"][quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835519" timestamp="1421150069"][quote name="hutch6" post="3835514" timestamp="1421149569"][quote name="kevin kiely" post="3835509" timestamp="1421149110"]
When you are at your weakest god shows you his strength .he came not only to take away sin but disease and infirmaties[/quote]So he's a doctor now. Fraz might have something to say on that as man has not evolved as far as education and knowledge goes for quite some time yet anti-biotics, vaccinations, medical treatments and indeed general knowledge of basic medical procedures have all been massive milestones in recent times that have only
Not necessarily, I'm sure you've heard of spontaneous healing where people suffering from diseases such as cancer go on a visit to some holy place and miraculously get cured. It's the expectation and euphoria that heals them.[/quote]
Is it now?[/quote]

No it's God....[/quote]

I know[/quote]

Shame he doesn't do that for every cancer sufferer...

#3231 hutch6

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:08 pm

You keep dreaming about hitler mate, nazi party big occult men, but you say otherwise no nother.

Hutchy your arent even debating your just spouting atheist poo poo, an as you said you cant prove nothing, your words not mine.


I done this to death already for pages an pages, an it was a waste, cause it was just slaging back an forward, now last time im saying this, you have a big gripe with the bible, but I take it literal, so point out specifically your gripe, an we can move on


That's easy enough.

It's a book written by men about a God made by men in order to control men. End of. No impact on how I ldecide what I choose to do in my life. The same goes for any religious text.

I don't have to dream about anything let alone a set of people that commit horrendous acts in the name of religion.
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:23 pm

 

Hello chris, as I said before, we came from soup to human, so started small, then evolved to human, an bang here we are, acoording to evos we were stupid back then, so what about the great structures, around world, pyramids etc, theres hundreds of them, no bother for bible beleivers, bible tells us they were giants in those days an after, problem for evos, men were smarter back then imo can you explain these mega structures?truther an hutchy

 

I'm a little confused here, Fraz, but I haven't read the first 200 pages of this thread. You're saying we came from soup to human? That's evolution.

 

Evo's say were stupid back then? That isn't supported by the evidence. Evolution doesn't necessarily favour intelligence. It favours the most adaptable.

 

It's continual random mutation that is either successful, or not. The successful mutation survives to be passed on. The unsuccessful isn't.

 

I don't have the time or patience to type a post of how human intelligence as evolved to it's current level. I'm sure it wouldn't be read in it's entirety and it would be an enormous volume. There are some fantastic explanations, by people who are extremely versed in the science, but in an awfully brief para-phrase it stems from a mutation of the ape jaw bone and subsequent atrophy of the jaw the muscles that allowed skulls to expand and the size of the brain to expand with it. All part of the evolutionary process. The continual, and random, mutation over time.

 

When you mentioned giants, earlier, I didn't realise you meant Nephilim. I thought you meant the syndrome Acromegaly which results in the human pituitary gland over producing growth hormone. A condition witnessed today that can cause giantism in humans. I'm sure everyone is familar with the wrestler Andre the Giant but his size, strength, and weight, were a side effect of a disease which ultimately killed him.

 

Personally I don't believe that Nephilim existed. The bones, pictures, and anecdotal evidence has been exposed as a hoax. The Smithsonian and National Geographic haven't supressed information and the story that they have is also a hoax.

 

Square cube law (science) has proven that a 20ft+ human couldn't exist. Specifically the parts that deal with biomechanics if you wish to study it further. Briefly, the size and density of the bones of Andre the Giant. A mere minnow, compared to the Nephilim, put him at around 600lbs. Scaling up such a creature to 20, 30, or even 50ft wouldn't be possible for a biped especially in these hot arrid areas where these alleged bones have been discovered.

 

As far as mega structures go, many here have already stated some of the theories, but I haven't yet read anything about the nubian pyramids constructed by the Kushite kingdom, in what is now Sudan. There are over 250 pyramids there and the Eqyptians sampled heavily from their architectural and engineering skills. The pyramids weren't built by slaves but by skilled builders. The larger Egyptian pyramids took far longer to construct and modern archaelogy has already uncovered the levelled cities that were around them housing thousands of workers who were treated well and lived very comfortably.

 

The bible may give it's version of events but so too does James Spader in Stargate. :thumbs:

 

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Hitler was a Christian. Drawing his torrent of anti-semitism from the pages of the gospel according to (the convieniently anonymous) John. He clearly points to his inspiration, in his book. Yes he dabbled in the occult but he was also a complete f***ing lunatic.

 

Stalin was indeed a confirmed atheist, as was demanded under Communism. However you neglected to mention that was raised a Christian, by his mother. He was enrolled in seminary school and studied the priesthood. When he seized power he walked into a ready made religious tyranny that had been constructed by the Russian Orthodox church. He merely rebranded tools of the church, namely the Inquisition, that were used to keep the sheep inline and rebranded them under the flag of hammer and sickle.

 

My primary reason for knowing the bible is a complete work of fiction is that at no point in the bible does it say that slavery is wrong. It only says that you should treat your slaves well!

 

Why doesn't the 10 Commandments say "Thou Shall Not Keep Another Person As Your Property?"

 

I'm going to burn in hell for masturbating but it's totally okay to own someone with the specific reason of them working for me, without pay? :laugh:

 

Exactly what I was going to say lol


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#3233 frazdog

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:28 pm

Right ok, well dont be on here talking crap about the bible, when thats all you got to go on,,,,,,

An this one makes me laugh lol a book to control men haha,,,,, could you please explain to me how it controls men, ya buck ejit

#3234 walshie

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:32 pm

Uh-uh. No personal insults please. :nono: Play nicely. 



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:36 pm

Its controlling you ya twat

#3236 frazdog

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:45 pm

All mouth, with nothing to back it up, EXPLAIN how it controls me, Now we got the master patterdale man on here fd havent you got a pat to inseminate.

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:48 pm

Right close the thread walshie ... You said anymore insults and you would close it ... Or are you all mouth and no trousers :whistling: .........

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:51 pm

Yeah walshie close it bunch of narrowminded bigots, with nothing else to do than bring folk down, sad little men

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 07:52 pm

If another mod wants to listen to any more of this pish, feel free to unlock this topic but i've heard enough. 






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