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I can forgive a pup for coming out, but I could not forgive an older dog.

dont get me wrong there’s a few reasons y it could come out, ie the dog may be sore or not, but they are all down to the man who owns the dogs, if the dog is sore or not Fit for  example  and it walks, then it’s human error in my view, 

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tank, 3 years old

Just got him out, just over 8 hours...... home bath, pjs on then bed.....

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Unless you were there and actually saw it come out then we shouldn't have any opinions.  There's plenty of reasons for a dog to come out, if it walked through cowardice and quit cold then that's a different story. 

I had a drop of this blood in my yard and the only complaint I had was they were way to hard and stupid for their own good. Ray was a strange cup of tea, a character that's for sure, he was no one's fool with a terrier though. 

He couldn't wait to call a dog shit and he wouldn't keep anything second rate, he'd make a big deal about anything coming away, he'd look you straight in the face and say "it f***ing reneged duck"  .........I'll wait for you to Google reneged 

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42 minutes ago, dillydog said:

Unless you were there and actually saw it come out then we shouldn't have any opinions.  There's plenty of reasons for a dog to come out, if it walked through cowardice and quit cold then that's a different story. 

I had a drop of this blood in my yard and the only complaint I had was they were way to hard and stupid for their own good. Ray was a strange cup of tea, a character that's for sure, he was no one's fool with a terrier though. 

He couldn't wait to call a dog shit and he wouldn't keep anything second rate, he'd make a big deal about anything coming away, he'd look you straight in the face and say "it f***ing reneged duck"  .........I'll wait for you to Google reneged 

From the terriers I saw at rays they all looked a little to hard for there own good , he had a nice young dog there first time I saw him i think it’s name was rocky ,from one side he looked a nice young dog then he turned round and looked like Freddy Krueger ?

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McCoy never walked when I saw him and I never heard of him doing so far better lads than me rated him highly I did see a couple of his offspring and they were very good dogs in fact after one dig a stiff one at that a good friend said after I commented said he's not his sire he was better but he's decent to dig too maybe the dog was having a bad day 

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5 hours ago, rob284 said:

I wouldn’t call a dog a jacker off one dig, dogs can have a bad day and if they aren’t fit or they’re sick when facing good quarry it wouldn’t bother me as long as they showed they still had it the rest of the season and it’s not a reoccurring thing.

If he was with his quarry and came out he jacked if he couldn't get to his quarry why didn't he dig on and if he had an upset tummy why did he walk I wouldn't get a day of work for it   So many excuse lead to so many failures

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29 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said:

If he was with his quarry and came out he jacked if he couldn't get to his quarry why didn't he dig on and if he had an upset tummy why did he walk I wouldn't get a day of work for it   So many excuse lead to so many failures

Depends on the ground your working, a big dog will never dig on in some places, and those big dogs are of no use to lads in those areas. day off work ? hardly compares though does it. If your ill you can’t work, especially if it’s a taxing job. We are talking about animals here not machines, if you don’t have them in good health they won’t work hard forever. If my dog was to walk the first thing I would look at is myself, have I missed something that’s a bit off with the dog. If I’m confident that he is fit for the job, I’ll take him out again and keep a close eye on him. If it reoccurs I’d say the dog has had enough and Pts and I can sleep at night knowing I gave the dog a fair go. I’ve a dog there that’s done me 4 seasons of hard digging, he came off after 90 minutes to ground last season, I was devastated but decided I’d give him another go.  I dug him over 30 times last season, and I dug 7m with him last week on two digs On the Saturday and Sunday, I could have Pts but I’m glad I didn’t.

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7 hours ago, howdeeposxxt said:

If he was with his quarry and came out he jacked if he couldn't get to his quarry why didn't he dig on and if he had an upset tummy why did he walk I wouldn't get a day of work for it   So many excuse lead to so many failures

And many a good dog pts due to a fit of rage from a pissed of owner could counter that, for showing off in front of their mates. Ya will know a jacker from a stumble

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7 hours ago, howdeeposxxt said:

  So many excuse lead to so many failures

But do they? 

Just because a dog is a world beater, never missed a beat type dog, doesn’t mean that he’ll re-produce himself. How many times has it been the case that the superstar from a litter produces bugger all and his brother who’s an honest average digging dog has produced worker after worker? 

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