shaneg 2,589 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 And a quarter they still are ,nothing added nothing taken away which takes me back to my original statement, nice pair with a bit of bull about them lol.Cant hide the bull from those who know mate . I'm not denying there's bull in them what I originally ment was no pure bull has been added. 1 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,733 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 So if you have a family of terriers that are roughly 1/4 bull and dont outcross or add any other blood to the line how much bull blood is in this family of terriers after say 35 yearsIn theory there should still be a quarter. The pups ya got recently will ya breed them into your own line Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 So if you have a family of terriers that are roughly 1/4 bull and dont outcross or add any other blood to the line how much bull blood is in this family of terriers after say 35 years In theory there should still be a quarter But Ive been told on here that bull blooded patterdales line bred for generations now have no bull blood in them, I just wondered where it disappears to, just to be clear this isnt aimed at you Shane Quote Link to post
shaneg 2,589 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 So if you have a family of terriers that are roughly 1/4 bull and dont outcross or add any other blood to the line how much bull blood is in this family of terriers after say 35 yearsIn theory there should still be a quarter But Ive been told on here that bull blooded patterdales line bred for generations now have no bull blood in them, I just wondered where it disappears to, just to be clear this isnt aimed at you Shane Some lads don't like admitting there's bull in there dog for some reason it can be a touchy subject with lads. In reality 99% of patterdales have bull in there make up. 1 Quote Link to post
WEDGEY 790 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 In that case mate how can you state there's no bull in them for 30 years unless you know every mating because I guarantee theres bull in those dogs.Crackers anyway mate so no bother . Cooney says you can tell by looking at them I actually didn't say that.Also ,I don't have to look at you to know you are full of bull. lol Quote Link to post
WEDGEY 790 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 So if you have a family of terriers that are roughly 1/4 bull and dont outcross or add any other blood to the line how much bull blood is in this family of terriers after say 35 yearsIn theory there should still be a quarter But Ive been told on here that bull blooded patterdales line bred for generations now have no bull blood in them, I just wondered where it disappears to, just to be clear this isnt aimed at you Shane Some lads don't like admitting there's bull in there dog for some reason it can be a touchy subject with lads. In reality 99% of patterdales have bull in there make up. even cooneys Quote Link to post
tinytiger 931 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 So if you have a family of terriers that are roughly 1/4 bull and dont outcross or add any other blood to the line how much bull blood is in this family of terriers after say 35 yearsanything between zero and a hundred percent.(some will take after it and some wont) Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 what does adding bull to terriers do?i dont get it? Quote Link to post
chesney 5,733 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'm sure lads have there reasons thinking it might cure the cur that's cropped in there line of jackers lol and not realising the bull blood they use could be a bigger cur than what they already have. 5 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 50,923 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Does it really matter what's in em...if your producing consistent digging dogs and getting game dug week after week season after season?atb dc 5 Quote Link to post
shaneg 2,589 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Does it really matter what's in em...if your producing consistent digging dogs and getting game dug week after week season after season?atb dc 100% it's grand to have a nice looking dog but if it doesn't work to a high standard for me there no good. I just like the bone and good heads the bull puts into them. Edited May 13, 2017 by shaneg 5 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,417 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) I'm sure lads have there reasons thinking it might cure the cur that's cropped in there line of jackers lol and not realising the bull blood they use could be a bigger cur than what they already have. I'm sure lads have there reasons thinking it might cure the cur that's cropped in there line of jackers lol and not realising the bull blood they use could be a bigger cur than what they already have. I've known bull blood put into lines of white terriers because not only was gameness lacking but physically they needed it. Staff blood added jaw and straight (or at least straighter) legs to an inbred line of Russells or such. In the couple of instances where I know for 100% percent that bull was added to Fell lines it was nearly always because the breeder was to proud (or stuck up) to ask another Fell breeder for an outcross. What did it add to that line ? Fresh blood is your answer. Nothing more, nothing less. Here in Ireland the Fell lines started to appear around the same time as the first American Pit Bulls. The Staff was starting to disappear. Lads who think they know talk of bull added left right and center when in truth the only bull was their theories. The Pit Bull can vary from 20 lbs to 100 lbs. My Blitz was 35 lbs, his sister was 60 lbs plus. Who'd put this into a terrier if they were thinking straight ???? Now, thinking that you know what a terrier looks like if it has bull in it is a theory, not a fact. Personally I tend to deal with honest lads and if bull was being used nilly willy like the jealous fantasists like to tell us I'd know of it (within the lines of Fell types I know off personally) and I'd also say it because the true proper Bulldog is my favourite breed and if I thought our workers were bull crosses as a whole I'd be the first to say it. Like I've said before of course there's bull in loads of proper working lines but not nearly as much as the messers think. Edited May 13, 2017 by neil cooney Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Chilling out Edited May 13, 2017 by THE GENERAL 11 1 Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 what one of them goes back to jc and tiger general all nice terriers 1 Quote Link to post
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