Starmer

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33 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

As I've said in another post, I find the situation in the Strait scary but kind of morbidly fascinating. How long will China put up with its vital oil tankers being held up in the Strait? Or are they getting through? We just don't know. We are only fed  half the story from the media. And even the half we are fed changes according to the individual affiliations of particular media platforms.

Trump's ratings are falling like a stone and his party must be seriously pissed off at their backsides being  on the line just as the mid term elections approach.

Trump and his team could, at any minute, change tack and begin bombing again.Trump is not used to being unpopular and  may try to end the war decisively in order to appear strong and retrieve favour and credibility.

Russia is delighted in selling its oil at bonanza rates.

While Starmer, unsuccessfully tries to garner some popularity and credibility from his indecision and bungling.

All good fun. Kind of.

Nothing funny about this country being destroyed from within.

[Born Hunter 18,186]

13 hours ago, WILF said:

Farage didn’t vote to investigate Starmer ???!!!!! 
Wonder why his Muslim master told him to do that ?

He said he was out campaigning as the vote was pointless whereas a landslide in the May elections will be decisive. I agree with that but I also think politics is about optics as much as logic. The optics of not turning up to that (pointless) vote is bad, and that has a very real effect at the ballot.

As much as I’m a fan of Lowe his attacks on farage over this are a bit pathetic imo. But whatever… politics doesn’t encourage much honour these days. It’s a race to the bottom and ‘we’ encourage it. 

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25 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

He said he was out campaigning as the vote was pointless whereas a landslide in the May elections will be decisive. I agree with that but I also think politics is about optics as much as logic. The optics of not turning up to that (pointless) vote is bad, and that has a very real effect at the ballot.

As much as I’m a fan of Lowe his attacks on farage over this are a bit pathetic imo. But whatever… politics doesn’t encourage much honour these days. It’s a race to the bottom and ‘we’ encourage it. 

I think as Lowe said, he is paid to be there doing these things….wether he thinks it’s a waste of time don’t have much to do with it. 
That makes total sense to me. 

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40 minutes ago, WILF said:

I think as Lowe said, he is paid to be there doing these things….wether he thinks it’s a waste of time don’t have much to do with it. 
That makes total sense to me. 

55 Labour MP’s didn’t turn up to vote.

They are the cowards. They didn’t have the integrity to turn up and vote against Starmer or even turn up and abstain in the vote.

I think Farage SHOULD have been there, but I can see his reasoning to keep a pre arranged canvassing day in  Norfolk that was organised well before the vote, but was it impossible to do both ?

Anyhow, the leftist Starmer supporters will make a big thing of it and turn a blind eye to the 15 Labour MP’s who voted against Starmer and the 55 who stayed away.

Lowe will, quite rightly , in my mind, try to make political capital out of it, but Farage made his decision and I doubt it will have any baring on next weeks elections.

Cheers.

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33 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

55 Labour MP’s didn’t turn up to vote.

They are the cowards. They didn’t have the integrity to turn up and vote against Starmer or even turn up and abstain in the vote.

I think Farage SHOULD have been there, but I can see his reasoning to keep a pre arranged canvassing day in  Norfolk that was organised well before the vote, but was it impossible to do both ?

Anyhow, the leftist Starmer supporters will make a big thing of it and turn a blind eye to the 15 Labour MP’s who voted against Starmer and the 55 who stayed away.

Lowe will, quite rightly , in my mind, try to make political capital out of it, but Farage made his decision and I doubt it will have any baring on next weeks elections.

Cheers.

I see Emma Lewell put her money where her mouth is and voted against Starmer I thought her speech was excellent.

Barry Gardiner who gets on GBNews abstained from voting he seems to be swinging with the wind at the moment the weasel. I hope the next time hes on there he gets roasted.

  

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7 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I see Emma Lewell put her money where her mouth is and voted against Starmer I thought her speech was excellent.

Barry Gardiner who gets on GBNews abstained from voting he seems to be swinging with the wind at the moment the weasel. I hope the next time hes on there he gets roasted.

  

Yeah I watched Emma Lewis, she’s a local MP, a very impassioned speech. I doubt Starmer would dare to sack her, she’s old school Labour and would probably win her seat as an independent.

Gardiner should have been charged with treason when he accepted £500,000 from a Chinese spy and gave her son a job in his parliamentary office. MI5 had her kicked out of the country. 
He’s not known as “Beijing Barry “ for nothing

Cheers.

Edited yesterday at 10:51 by chartpolski

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10 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Yeah I watched Emma Lewis, she’s a local MP, a very impassioned speech. I doubt Starmer would dare to sack her, she’s old school Labour and would probably win her seat as an independent.

Gardiner should have been charged with treason when he accepted £500,000 from a Chinese spy and gave her son a job in his parliamentary office. MI5 had her kicked out of the country. 
He’s not known as “Beijing Barry “ for nothing

Cheers.

I wasnt aware about that regarding Gardiner, hes known as Beetroot Barry in our house as when he gets rattled his head looks like its going to explode. Bill Rammell is also know as "but but" Bill as thats his go to when he gets cornered.   

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20 hours ago, WILF said:

Seen it mate, people shouldn’t believe the Toreform rhetoric promoted by their Islamic masters, folks should take the time to see what the bloke is saying. 

Been saying it for ages,if people genuinely want a change from the monotonous pile of wank this country has become accustomed to then Rupert Lowe is the only and possibly the last chance they're going to get....but personally i dont think as many people as they pretend do genuinely want change.

 

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35 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I wasnt aware about that regarding Gardiner, hes known as Beetroot Barry in our house as when he gets rattled his head looks like its going to explode. Bill Rammell is also know as "but but" Bill as thats his go to when he gets cornered.   

Bill Ramell, also known as Bill “ when I was a minister” Ramell

Cheers.

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5 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Been saying it for ages,if people genuinely want a change from the monotonous pile of wank this country has become accustomed to then Rupert Lowe is the only and possibly the last chance they're going to get....but personally i dont think as many people as they pretend do genuinely want change.

 

Reading comments on social sites it would seem that myself and a whole lot of people do agree with Rupert Lowe. Thing is, we're at the here and now and a vote for restore could actually benefit labour/greens or the lib dems. The way I'm reading it is vote for reform this time around whilst restore get better organised then get behind them.

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1 hour ago, mackay said:

Reading comments on social sites it would seem that myself and a whole lot of people do agree with Rupert Lowe. Thing is, we're at the here and now and a vote for restore could actually benefit labour/greens or the lib dems. The way I'm reading it is vote for reform this time around whilst restore get better organised then get behind them.

Have we all considered that if we don’t vote for them now (or when the time comes) there may not be a next time ? 
They may not exist if he looks at the public and thinks “why am I f***ing about with these people ?” 

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

Have we all considered that if we don’t vote for them now (or when the time comes) there may not be a next time ? 
They may not exist if he looks at the public and thinks “why am I f***ing about with these people ?” 

Crosses my mind all the time.

[Borr 9,218]

2 hours ago, WILF said:

Have we all considered that if we don’t vote for them now (or when the time comes) there may not be a next time ? 
They may not exist if he looks at the public and thinks “why am I f***ing about with these people ?” 

Mate he's just started and his aim is to win a single council election, not feasible to run a country and tbh his attack on reform is highlighting other stuff , like sell your wares don't slate others

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