Deerhound x greyhound

[mC HULL 18,530]

5 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I prefer genuine first cross, you can almost guarantee what you’ll get.

I don’t know if Platts dogs are tested , I’ve never seen one run.

I know he bought two deerhounds off my mate that had Doxhope breeding in them.

To be honest, I’ve never heard any one say Platts dogs are great or shite, but I laugh at this “English Deerhound” nonsense, it’s just a sales pitch, lads have been using deer/grey crosses up here before I was born, The Slack’s and Doherty were winning comps with them before the saluki cross came popular.

Its all down to personal preference

Cheers.

 

A 1st cross is going to throw all over from what ive seen all different shapes and sizes coats aint been around many litters a deerjounds so cant comment 

For me The aim would be to get the best killers and breed on a family of half cross killers until its a fixed trait

 

[chartpolski 30,055]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

A 1st cross is going to throw all over from what ive seen all different shapes and sizes coats aint been around many litters a deerjounds so cant comment 

For me The aim would be to get the best killers and breed on a family of half cross killers until its a fixed trait

 

Don’t be silly , genuine first cross deerhound greyhounds are like clones You obviously haven’t seen many first crosses.

I was in Ireland and two lads came up to me and said “I bet that’s a first cross Doxhope deerhound x Greyhound” . I said how do you know, he said “ they all look the same !”.

All from different litters;

Cheers.

 

 

[mC HULL 18,530]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Don’t be silly , genuine first cross deerhound greyhounds are like clones You obviously haven’t seen many first crosses.

I was in Ireland and two lads came up to me and said “I bet that’s a first cross Doxhope deerhound x Greyhound” . I said how do you know, he said “ they all look the same !”.

All from different litters;

Cheers.

 

 

Yes mate been about many litters seen a good few worth feeding 

In general you cross out to a greyhound like saluki collie etc they throw all.over most likely loads grey blood in the deeroiund anyway ? 

If im going for up.scotkand like that lad im going dogs 5 breeding it to.8 right stamp bit a coat

[chartpolski 30,055]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Yes mate been about many litters seen a good few worth feeding 

In general you cross out to a greyhound like saluki collie etc they throw all.over most likely loads grey blood in the deeroiund anyway ? 

If im going for up.scotkand like that lad im going dogs 5 breeding it to.8 right stamp bit a coat

We aren’t talking about saluki or collie crosses, we are talking about deer/greys and the first x throws true to type almost without exception..

Some of the dogs in those pics have been stripped out some haven’t but they all have similar coats.

Ive seen parti-coloured dogs that were supposed to be first crosses but it always turns out there was something else in there .

The two bitches in this pic, the one on the right only had about 1/4 deer in it, the other was sold as a first cross but, but it only made around 24”, when the breeder was questioned he admitted it has “some collie “in it !

Believe me; “ if it doesn’t look like a first cross, it almost certainly isn’t “

Cheers.

[mC HULL 18,530]

16 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

We aren’t talking about saluki or collie crosses, we are talking about deer/greys and the first x throws true to type almost without exception..

Some of the dogs in those pics have been stripped out some haven’t but they all have similar coats.

Ive seen parti-coloured dogs that were supposed to be first crosses but it always turns out there was something else in there .

The two bitches in this pic, the one on the right only had about 1/4 deer in it, the other was sold as a first cross but, but it only made around 24”, when the breeder was questioned he admitted it has “some collie “in it !

Believe me; “ if it doesn’t look like a first cross, it almost certainly isn’t “

Cheers.

So you think you breed 2 half crosses same blood together the progeny would throw all over ? 

[Black neck 18,447]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

So you think you breed 2 half crosses same blood together the progeny would throw all over ? 

They would be useless

[chartpolski 30,055]

Here’s one for you mC , many years ago on here a lad put up a pic of a Saluki/greyhound for sale and said it was a first cross.

All the Daywalkers savaged him because the dog was heavily feathered and according to them, first crosses NEVER throw feathered Now I don’t know if that’s true, fair enough, of the limited number of first cross saluki/ greys I’ve seen, they were all smooth.

I actually contacted an animal genetics expert for his view, he said probably the greyhound coat gene was dominant, but that didn’t necessarily mean it couldn’t happen.

Your opinion please

Cheers.

 

[chartpolski 30,055]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

So you think you breed 2 half crosses same blood together the progeny would throw all over ? 

Yes, that’s how you tell a first crosses from a second cross.

Cheers.

[mC HULL 18,530]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Here’s one for you mC , many years ago on here a lad put up a pic of a Saluki/greyhound for sale and said it was a first cross.

All the Daywalkers savaged him because the dog was heavily feathered and according to them, first crosses NEVER throw feathered Now I don’t know if that’s true, fair enough, of the limited number of first cross saluki/ greys I’ve seen, they were all smooth.

I actually contacted an animal genetics expert for his view, he said probably the greyhound coat gene was dominant, but that didn’t necessarily mean it couldn’t happen.

Your opinion please

Cheers.

 

Id say it maybe could happen genetics are mental  

But ive not known it or ever seen it they throw all over from what ive seen the half crosses but never feathered

 

 

[mC HULL 18,530]

16 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Yes, that’s how you tell a first crosses from a second cross.

Cheers.

Madness it would  be the other way around with other types aye 

[tatsblisters 11,475]

17 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Id say it maybe could happen genetics are mental  

But ive not known it or ever seen it they throw all over from what ive seen the half crosses but never feathered

 

 

The first cross I had out of ginger Frenches luke when I went to Bacup in Lancashire to pick him up out of the litter of 9 not one pup showed any feathering though majority of the litter were a tan colour bar a black one and a black one with a white blaze and collar . The greyhound bitch was blue. 

[The drover 1,692]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

Don’t be silly , genuine first cross deerhound greyhounds are like clones You obviously haven’t seen many first crosses.

I was in Ireland and two lads came up to me and said “I bet that’s a first cross Doxhope deerhound x Greyhound” . I said how do you know, he said “ they all look the same !”.

All from different litters;

Cheers.

 

 

The 1st one for me charts. Beautiful example. Too much curve at the stifle tho. It must be useless . Haaaaa

[The drover 1,692]

Tom from wick that bred the deer x coursing greys had some nice animals. He started using a dog out of tor oh Dartmoor to his greys. I had a phenomenal bitch out that breeding

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[gunter 4,242]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

A 1st cross is going to throw all over from what ive seen all different shapes and sizes coats aint been around many litters a deerjounds so cant comment 

For me The aim would be to get the best killers and breed on a family of half cross killers until its a fixed trait

 

Is that what your doing with white death and white widow

[mC HULL 18,530]

1 hour ago, tatsblisters said:

The first cross I had out of ginger Frenches luke when I went to Bacup in Lancashire to pick him up out of the litter of 9 not one pup showed any feathering though majority of the litter were a tan colour bar a black one and a black one with a white blaze and collar . The greyhound bitch was blue. 

The sire to gingers Luke was a smooth saluki from feathered parents thats not often seen either

still.bits go back.to.him.today razor blood etc aye