fireman 11,333 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 9 hours ago, mC HULL said: it was easily done mate weren’t it not many knew what they were getting into and not many if any are doing a rattle on the street f**k that ive never done my rattle off the grip i mentioned before about tramadol and thinking ill just stop wow lol and that won’t a been a patch on that I shudder to think of how many folk were prescribed a drug so it can help them only for that drug to ruin a life instead of helping it, but well done on hanging it out and sorting it as it's so much easier as yo know just to pop another one and just carry on with life as not many folk have the time to be able to take the time off from life you need to sort yourself out.. With you every step of the way DC and it guts me when i see folk on the streets and pretty much in a place i was once,i'm so glad i did have friends who gave me a place to stay and support through the rough time of finally getting clean. It took me 3 years from walking in the doctors to waking up one day and having my life back. I got clean then one day soon after i took a fishing rod out and was walking across a welsh field and it started raining,proper welsh coastal rain and i stopped dead as it hit me that my only worry was getting wet and i was really free. I cried like i have never cried before as all those years of hurt and utter fecking missery were finally behind me. Many folk choose the wrong path in life and yes many street folk can be wrong un's all the way but there are some real sad cases out there where even the bond of a street friendship is the most sort of love some folks have ever had, feck knows what the answer is but again thank you to those who just give a shit... 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,228 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) I support a couple of charities monthly and I give as the mood takes me. Sometimes beggars "hit the spot" and I give them a few quid, sometimes I don't. My Mrs nearly always gives, which in places like Glasgow is an expensive day out. Giving is not just one way. It's a two way thing. The giver gets a bang out of being nice. "It's nice to be nice" as the saying goes. If I were a beggar, I would get myself a dog, preferably a small three legged dog which likes to be fussed. I would dress it in clothes and put a begging bowl around its neck. People love and trust dogs more than they do people . I've given it a lot of thought......... You never know when it's your turn for disaster to happen to. Edited July 10 by jukel123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,933 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 I buy them food and used to regularly do the rounds with a group on a weekend evening giving out sandwiches, soup and boiled eggs. Never give them money. Here, they sit outside the supermarkets. I'll always come out with something for them. Used to have a laugh giving them tins but they put paid to that when every tin now has a ring pull opener Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,197 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 I've always said,if I fell on hard times and became homeless,then I'd get myself a little lurcher to feed me,and move out to the sticks,swap my labour skills for somewhere to rest my head....f**k sleeping with 1 eye open in a box or on a park bench in the city. everything you need is in the hedgerows and rivers around you 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 9,228 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 31 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: I've always said,if I fell on hard times and became homeless,then I'd get myself a little lurcher to feed me,and move out to the sticks,swap my labour skills for somewhere to rest my head....f**k sleeping with 1 eye open in a box or on a park bench in the city. everything you need is in the hedgerows and rivers around you Me too. Sleeping rough in a city is a miserable, dangerous business.Sadistic b*****ds attack and piss on the homeless . I would take a tent and live in the wilds without a doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,521 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Me too. Sleeping rough in a city is a miserable, dangerous business.Sadistic b*****ds attack and piss on the homeless . Homeless bloke here shot and killed sleeping outside a 7-11 last week,and I remember two years back a bloke was murdering them on the streets as they slept,can’t remember how many he killed,if your visible as you sleep your an easy target. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,925 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 45 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: I've always said,if I fell on hard times and became homeless,then I'd get myself a little lurcher to feed me,and move out to the sticks,swap my labour skills for somewhere to rest my head....f**k sleeping with 1 eye open in a box or on a park bench in the city. everything you need is in the hedgerows and rivers around you I would do the same mate thing is it i dare bet a lot of these rough sleepers in towns and cities have probably never sett foot in the countryside to enjoy it's peace and tranquility or known with a bit of injunewity you could feed your self to a degree. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,580 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 On 08/07/2025 at 21:36, mC HULL said: last week at ferry bridge services i give one 20 quid he tried giving me it back and said give him a tenner as that would get him the night in the hotel there i think ? like you say mate plenty are just down on there luck Aye beggars refuse money all the time and do change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,197 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 53 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Me too. Sleeping rough in a city is a miserable, dangerous business.Sadistic b*****ds attack and piss on the homeless . I would take a tent and live in the wilds without a doubt. I know a lad whos job it is to monitor CCTV cameras in Cardiff city..few yrs back he watched 3 pricks walk up to a homeless man who was sleeping on a busy Friday night,one lad dropped his pants and curled a log onto the poor cnut in his sleeping bag,while the other 2 pricks stood laughing and filming it,when the poor guy got up to challenge them,they put a few boots into him...wasn't so funny when the lad who did the shit was given 10 yrs and his bum chums had 4/5 yrs each....what gets me is there was probably a hundred people stood and watched it....but didn't have the minerals to do something about itthat's today's society to a f***ing tee...so long as I'm alright Jack, nothing to see here...maggots... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,197 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 46 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: I would do the same mate thing is it i dare bet a lot of these rough sleepers in towns and cities have probably never sett foot in the countryside to enjoy it's peace and tranquility or known with a bit of injunewity you could feed your self to a degree. Not just that,you could offer to help some farmer out,work for bed and food?...f**k begging on the streets asking for money 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,503 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 45 minutes ago, mackay said: Aye beggars refuse money all the time and do change. ? he didn’t refuse just offered half back said thats his night sorted he walked off to the hotel on there then come back said i need to see the security guard he normally comes out during night spends time with me do change? any one can be down on there luck mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,528 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 13 hours ago, fireman said: I get it but no one chooses to be totaly homeless with a habit, only mates you have are other homeless addicts and you own nothing. Doing a rattle or cold turkey needs a partly furnished room to do it in as there's times when you might shit yourself or spend many nights climbing the walls aching like you have never ached before,sweating and stinking and all being done inside a grotty sleeping bag under a bridge or in a back door way. It ain't going to happen mate and it's easier to keep your habit going. I used to sell the big issue mostly to support my habit and on the whole my habit cost just a tenner a day as i couldn't afford a bigger one and i was careful in always trying to keep a bit for the morning so i could get up and get to it,a poxy tenner and maybe if i was lucky i'd get a drop of a few quid extra to get some food but i did get fed by folks out of gregs and such like,but my gear came before food as without i could not function,without food i was just hungry.I ain't after a pat on the back for sorting my shit out as i was a total knobhead getting a habit in the first place but just trying to put it from the side of the man sat with feck all but his habit... Now, this is a sensitive issue so take my word for it when I say I’m treading as carefully as I can. Years ago I was way less mellow and understanding than I am now but both schools of thought aside, it always baffled me how people arrive at skag ? Is there like a general story or have you found each case is unique ? The bit I never understood was this, certainly our generation was brought up being fully informed about skag so what makes a person go near it ? Don’t get me wrong, I was a young man in the 90s and was pretty fond of excess until I met my wife but never that, wouldn’t have touched it with a barge pole and that was a time when I didn’t give two shits about anything…….so I was always pretty harsh in my judgement of skag heads. I never understood the why or the how because it was the drug equivalent of jumping off a sky scraper, everyone knows it’s going to do them in badly…..we were literally brought up knowing that information. So I suppose my rather rambling point after your excellent posts is, can you give me any insight into the “why & how” of junkies ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poxon 5,909 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Daniel cain said: I've always said,if I fell on hard times and became homeless,then I'd get myself a little lurcher to feed me,and move out to the sticks,swap my labour skills for somewhere to rest my head....f**k sleeping with 1 eye open in a box or on a park bench in the city. everything you need is in the hedgerows and rivers around you Dan me and you think very similar. One thing I’ve never understood about someone who has fell on hard times even if there not dependant on drugs or alcohol why they would want to sit in a town or city begging hoping that life is gunna get any better is beyond me because it never is sat in these places it’s a continuous cycle that attracts people the same then you get led further down the garden path possibly in to drink an drugs as a way of coping with the situation. Same as you mate get out of town down in some wood land build a shelter trap and forage and hunt 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,528 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Daniel cain said: I know a lad whos job it is to monitor CCTV cameras in Cardiff city..few yrs back he watched 3 pricks walk up to a homeless man who was sleeping on a busy Friday night,one lad dropped his pants and curled a log onto the poor cnut in his sleeping bag,while the other 2 pricks stood laughing and filming it,when the poor guy got up to challenge them,they put a few boots into him...wasn't so funny when the lad who did the shit was given 10 yrs and his bum chums had 4/5 yrs each....what gets me is there was probably a hundred people stood and watched it....but didn't have the minerals to do something about itthat's today's society to a f***ing tee...so long as I'm alright Jack, nothing to see here...maggots... There’s the other side of the coin as well, in my old town there was a tramp, always pissed and used to stand outside shops with his dick out pissing. I pulled up at the Tesco’s one evening with my girls in the car who were only little at the time, there he was just stood there in the middle of the doorway, in the high street with his cock out pissing…..he wasnt event holding it, his hands were busy with cans, just dick flopped out for all to see pissing. My little girls said “Daddy, what’s that man doing” so I got out and fired the filthy c**t out the way…..I’d have happily thrown him in a river if one had been available or when I was younger before being a husband and dad, I’d have dragged him round some alley and hospitalised him without a second thought……I’d have thought no more of it than killing a rat. I don’t care who you are or what your circumstance, people should not have to put up with that….conducting yourself like that don’t come for free imho. I don’t condone having a pony on the poor c**t, but my point is not all of these people are struggling “victims”, some are just grimey horrible fuckers. Edited July 10 by WILF 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,349 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 One of the very few advantages of age is that you can look back to when things were “different “. I remember when there were very, very few beggars in Newcastle. One was a blind veteran, playing an accordion, dressed in a shabby, but clean suit complete with his medals. The place he stood, outside Fenwicks on Northumberland street is now occupied by drug addicts and Romanian illegal immigrants with their hands out. I was too young to give to the blind veteran, but my parents did, and had a chat with him, I very much doubt they would fund the lifestyles of his modern counterparts! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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