Traitor or Hero ????

[chartpolski 26,062]

How will Kier Starmer be viewed in years to come ? 
He has allowed Indians to come here and work without paying National Insurance contributions, while putting up the same tax for the British.

He has given up our fishing rights to the EU for another 12 years, in return for us, maybe, being able to use “e gates” when travelling to the EU.

He has given up British Sovereign Territory to Mauritius, which has never owned the islands, and will pay £101 million per year to rent back only one of the islands, Diego Garcia.

Another four years of this and will we have a country ?

Cheers.

Edited Thursday at 16:47 by chartpolski

[dodger 3,356]

19 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

How will Kier Starmer be viewed in years to come ? 
He has allowed Indians to come here and work without paying National Insurance contributions, while putting up the same tax for the British.

He has given up our fishing rights to the EU for another 12 years, in return for us, maybe, being able to use “e gates” when travelling to the EU.

He has given up British Sovereign Territory to Mauritius, which has never owned the islands, and will pay £101 million per year to rent back only one of the islands, Diego Garcia.

Another four years of this and will we have a country ?

Cheers.

What's that with Mauritius charts noticed a few of them about recently and why are Indians now coming not paying national insurance 

[chartpolski 26,062]

1 minute ago, dodger said:

What's that with Mauritius charts noticed a few of them about recently and why are Indians now coming not paying national insurance 

Mauritius made a claim in the international court to take our Indian Ocean Overseas Territory off us . The court gave a non- binding decision that Mauritius had a claim, so Labour has handed them over , but one of the islands is Diego Garcia, our, and the Americans most strategic base in the Indo-pacific. 
Starmer has agreed to rent back Diego Garcia, which was OUR’S in the first place, for 100 years at £101 million a year !

In the recent UK-India trade agreement Labour has agreed that Indian nationals working in the UK won’t pay NI contributions, Uk nationals working in India have the same agreement, but I’d guess a lot more Indians want to work here than brits want to work in India !

All these deals seem a bit one sided against us. But I’m not an international negotiator so maybe I’m reading it wrong ?

Cheers.

[mitre 154]

Very dodgy people out there every thing cash in hand nothing goes in the books 

[dodger 3,356]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Mauritius made a claim in the international court to take our Indian Ocean Overseas Territory off us . The court gave a non- binding decision that Mauritius had a claim, so Labour has handed them over , but one of the islands is Diego Garcia, our, and the Americans most strategic base in the Indo-pacific. 
Starmer has agreed to rent back Diego Garcia, which was OUR’S in the first place, for 100 years at £101 million a year !

In the recent UK-India trade agreement Labour has agreed that Indian nationals working in the UK won’t pay NI contributions, Uk nationals working in India have the same agreement, but I’d guess a lot more Indians want to work here than brits want to work in India !

All these deals seem a bit one sided against us. But I’m not an international negotiator so maybe I’m reading it wrong ?

Cheers.

Makes perfect sense what your saying especially the part more Indians will want to work here than us there I didn't even know this or about Mauritius until your post

One sided as you say and he's hanging us out to dry on top of everything else that's going on..

[trigger2 3,214]

Starmer is a tosspot. 

[steve66 3,668]

On the plus side most Indians are Hindus and hate Muslims lol  

[Arry 23,713]

Think he might end up getting the push after a scandal. Seems to be sailing close to the wind with these male models.

IMO Traitor.

Giving British Territory away then renting it back. Should have just said f**k off. Is he going to give Gibraltar away next?

Cheers Arry

[mushroom 13,631]

Traitor, idiot and a liar!

[WILF 48,636]

They will all be viewed as traitors because that’s what they are…..Starmer is no different to Cameron or Boris or Blair or Thatcher or Major or Milliband etc etc etc ……these people are all of the same kidney !

[chartpolski 26,062]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

They will all be viewed as traitors because that’s what they are…..Starmer is no different to Cameron or Boris or Blair or Thatcher or Major or Milliband etc etc etc ……these people are all of the same kidney !

What have you got against kidneys ?

They are very nice devilled, on toast for breakfast ! LOL !

Cheers.

[Pardus 905]

Whatever he is I'm certain he gets a fair shake on here. Lol

[jukel123 9,063]

I guess Starmer will be viewed according  to the spin the history books put on him. For me he will always be a disgusting traitor.

 Where does the truth lie? Answer?  Often the first 'truth' which is presented to you. I think it's called the ' anchoring position'. Getting people to stray from their their anchoring position is devilishly hard.

Took a lot to persuade people that the earth ain't flat. That we descended from monkeys. That the sun revolves around the earth and the earth revolves around the moon.

People will read that Starmer was a jolly good chap because he lead the party away from dangerous leftist views like a decent NHS. From a dental service poor people can access . From a wage you can actually live on, from meaningful sick pay and a non subsistence state pension . He 'reformed' the Labour Party to another version of the tory party.  Spiffing good chap, a very good sort. Dragging people away from that anchoring position will be very difficult.

Bit I think he is a repellent, odious traitor.

[Borr 7,161]

He's worse than Tories, he has no care of Britain, just a much bigger view on par with Obama in my view , without sounding tinhat brigade he wants a population replacement of UK , closer if not back to EU and a kind of communism across Europe same as Merkel and various others have wanted . Now they're going to get a right wing swing , hopefully sooner rather than later as if it comes much later in this full scale invasion of foreign people's then it will swing further to the right, and as I keep repeating these people whom I used to call liberal lefties which I feel should be called something like extremist provocateurs...  Will cause the most extreme end to our country 

[eastcoast 4,348]

47 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I guess Starmer will be viewed according  to the spin the history books put on him. For me he will always be a disgusting traitor.

 Where does the truth lie? Answer?  Often the first 'truth' which is presented to you. I think it's called the ' anchoring position'. Getting people to stray from their their anchoring position is devilishly hard.

Took a lot to persuade people that the earth ain't flat. That we descended from monkeys. That the sun revolves around the earth and the earth revolves around the moon.

People will read that Starmer was a jolly good chap because he lead the party away from dangerous leftist views like a decent NHS. From a dental service poor people can access . From a wage you can actually live on, from meaningful sick pay and a non subsistence state pension . He 'reformed' the Labour Party to another version of the tory party.  Spiffing good chap, a very good sort. Dragging people away from that anchoring position will be very difficult.

Bit I think he is a repellent, odious traitor.

I know nothing about politics but we did not descend from monkeys. They and us followed a similar evolutionary path. We are where we are, have nuclear bombs and such, they still have tails and can lick their own balls.