Trump assassination attempt.

[mC HULL 14,290]

8 minutes ago, Franks dad said:

He wasn’t judge or jury … just executioner …. Murder is unjustified and he was given the justification to carry out his duties, soldiers are all murders then ?  … just my option… 

that’s a cold blooded killer lol taking hundreds a life’s 

justified lol 

 

are the taliban murderers 

were the guards on chambers 

Edited July 14, 2024 by mC HULL

[Pewit 971]

4 minutes ago, green lurchers said:

Cnts nearly dead  he gets hunter to help him …. Count the Chinese money 

Many of us end up that way in the end shaggy 

[Pewit 971]

5 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I had a look at the polling results, and depending on how the question is framed the answers vary wildly , so I did a completely unscientific straw poll amongst my friends and contacts and they were overwhelming in favour, but then again, the vast majority of my friends are as right wing as me, so the result may be slightly biased ! LOL !

Cheers.

Yep, something as serious as this shouldn't be a simple binary, yes or no. 

And as you say, the opinion changes depending on the audience, right wingers are more likely to be in favour than left wingers.

[mel b 3,081]

13 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

non sense 

someone killed a man’s kids and wife in horrific ways the man kills him that’s illegal immoral and wrong 

you have a comtrol pad in the american army drop a bomb from a drone kill ten innnocent women and children that just fair and moral 

 

there’s some heads tucked up

on here if you ask me there really is lol

 

 

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f**k me drunk , I almost tried to reason with you then.

That would be the legal , and the morally correct thing to do , but f**k me it wouldn't half be a waste of time

[chartpolski 25,699]

1 minute ago, Pewit said:

Yep, something as serious as this shouldn't be a simple binary, yes or no. 

And as you say, the opinion changes depending on the audience, right wingers are more likely to be in favour than left wingers.

And older more so than young.

I fully understand the worry about the innocent being found guilty and hung, there’s no appeal from that, but in cast iron cases such as the Moors murderers ,the Wests, Neilson , the Yorkshire Ripper, etc, I believe 100% they should have had the death penalty.

The problem is “reasonable doubt”. If their was no reasonable doubt, they would hang, if their was reasonable doubt, they would’nt hang or even be found guilty. So juries or judges would be put in very uncomfortable positions. Jurors  against the death penalty might be persuaded to find someone not guilty to avoid the death penalty, and a murder would be free by default.

It would need the wisdom of a Solomon to sort it out, and I think that sort of wisdom is, sadly, in short supply !

Cheers.

 

[green lurchers 16,918]

Obama isn’t Marxist educated  and bill Clinton never had sexual relations with Monica  , app the call for another 100 million mail in ballots is a goer 

[Franks dad 1,132]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

And older more so than young.

I fully understand the worry about the innocent being found guilty and hung, there’s no appeal from that, but in cast iron cases such as the Moors murderers ,the Wests, Neilson , the Yorkshire Ripper, etc, I believe 100% they should have had the death penalty.

The problem is “reasonable doubt”. If their was no reasonable doubt, they would hang, if their was reasonable doubt, they would’nt hang or even be found guilty. So juries or judges would be put in very uncomfortable positions. Jurors  against the death penalty might be persuaded to find someone not guilty to avoid the death penalty, and a murder would be free by default.

It would need the wisdom of a Solomon to sort it out, and I think that sort of wisdom is, sadly, in short supply !

Cheers.

 

Apparently you cannot  kill murderers , that makes you a cold blooded killer 

[Pewit 971]

4 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

And older more so than young.

I fully understand the worry about the innocent being found guilty and hung, there’s no appeal from that, but in cast iron cases such as the Moors murderers ,the Wests, Neilson , the Yorkshire Ripper, etc, I believe 100% they should have had the death penalty.

The problem is “reasonable doubt”. If their was no reasonable doubt, they would hang, if their was reasonable doubt, they would’nt hang or even be found guilty. So juries or judges would be put in very uncomfortable positions. Jurors  against the death penalty might be persuaded to find someone not guilty to avoid the death penalty, and a murder would be free by default.

It would need the wisdom of a Solomon to sort it out, and I think that sort of wisdom is, sadly, in short supply !

Cheers.

 

And that's the deal breaker, even with DNA evidence people can be wrongly convicted. For me, if it saves one innocent person's life then the abolishment of capital punishment is the right way to go. 

Edited July 14, 2024 by Pewit

[Mickey Finn 3,055]

3 hours ago, Greyman said:

Neutral my arse you raving leftie

I said independent not neutral. 

We pick the lesser of two evils.

[Greyman 30,020]

22 minutes ago, Pewit said:

Many of us end up that way in the end shaggy 

Especially on a diet of kebab meat rocks the brain 

[Greyman 30,020]

2 minutes ago, Mickey Finn said:

I said independent not neutral. 

We pick the lesser of two evils.

Your a belter mate ww3 higher tax higher immigration is the lesser of two evils your country’s going down the shitter under a geriatric globalist and you favour that nothing independent about you total leftie without the balls to own it 

[jukel123 9,046]

I was never a fan of capital punishment because I've never been persuaded it would act as a deterrent. But in the case of the grooming gangs I would support the death penalty for the racist torture, sale and rape of children.  These people belong to a culture where violent retribution by the state is permitted. If the death penalty for such crimes were on the statute book here I believe we would see an end to such crime.

Edited August 18, 2024 by jukel123

[Pewit 971]

9 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Especially on a diet of kebab meat rocks the brain 

That is terrible, another symptom of dementia is fantasizing over phantom big cats. I've heard your wife puts out saucers of milk around the barge to keep you content. Lol

"There's a good boy Felix, mummy loves you."

 

Edited July 14, 2024 by Pewit

[mel b 3,081]

6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I was never a fan of capital punishment because I've never been persuaded it would act as a deterrent. But in the case of the Pakistani grooming gangs I would support the death penalty for the racist torture, sale and rape of children.  These people belong to a culture where violent retribution by the state is permitted. If the death penalty for such crimes were on the statute book here I believe we would see an end to such crime.

It might not stop them doing it , but it would certainly stop them from doing it twice .

[Greyman 30,020]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I was never a fan of capital punishment because I've never been persuaded it would act as a deterrent. But in the case of the Pakistani grooming gangs I would support the death penalty for the racist torture, sale and rape of children.  These people belong to a culture where violent retribution by the state is permitted. If the death penalty for such crimes were on the statute book here I believe we would be an end to such crime.

You can’t pick and choose mate your either in or out, me I,d kill them all right up for it and I’d have different levels of killing for different crimes kids and women I’d clingfilm there heads and so on