Greyman 25,286 Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Even the ships shite lol sturgeons flagship electric ferry is f****d and running on diesel genny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 1,724 Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Biggest scam going after global warming an the covid debacle. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,987 Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Biggest scam since Kirby hoovers lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,987 Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 Men should drive gas gulling big v8s, big ole tanks, now they drive electric a Vauxhall Zoe , basically a coffin on 4 wheels, by the time he’s put his laptop in it thier no room for fuk all else.you often see them ringing the neck out of it in the middle lane doing 60mph , head pushed up against the screen slowly rocking back n forth trying to help it get over 60mph 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,453 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Hydrogen needs to be explored far more than it is. Japan is doing well with Hydrogen cars in Japan, and Jim Radcliffe has one in the making. There are other examples of Hydrogen vehicles but they appear to get very little publicity. Electric seems a conspiracy promoted by Governments and lapped up by the gullible. Electric is NOT the saviour of all transport, it has a long way to go in terms of its Green credentials, practicality and of course cost!!! On the face of it Hydrogen has a lot going for it. So why don't we hear more about it??? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,008 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 On 08/03/2023 at 22:30, BaldMan said: Ok so my understanding is Evs are to cut down on use of fossil fuels , the batteries are constructed of lithium mainly mined in South America & South Africa causing massive deforestation by huge machinery ( usually diesel powered ) . The many components are shipped around the world to construct the vehicle i am led to believe that an Ev will have covered around 24k miles in construction . The majority of our electric comes from fossil fuel powered stations , no one wants nuclear plus solar wind etc are still relatively small producers . there is not the infrastructure to cope with Evs ( charging points ) , what happens when we all get home from work at 6 pm plu the Ev in & put the kettle on . My thoughts on Evs All well and good them saying its to reduce fossil fuel use but petrol and diesel are not the main uses of crude, there are far more important products made from it so total demand for crude is not going to go down any time soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Deker said: Hydrogen needs to be explored far more than it is. Japan is doing well with Hydrogen cars in Japan, and Jim Radcliffe has one in the making. There are other examples of Hydrogen vehicles but they appear to get very little publicity. Electric seems a conspiracy promoted by Governments and lapped up by the gullible. Electric is NOT the saviour of all transport, it has a long way to go in terms of its Green credentials, practicality and of course cost!!! On the face of it Hydrogen has a lot going for it. So why don't we hear more about it??? I live near MIRA (Motor Industry Research Association) They have been testing hydrogen cars for a good few years, Two years ago they build a whole factory dedicated to testing Hydrogen as an alternative to heating and lighting Homes. Testing is going on as someone with deep pockets is paying for all of that testing and evaluating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 42,892 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 They not interested in saving the planet or pushing the cheapest option.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gypsydog94 4,329 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 3 hours ago, paulus said: I live near MIRA (Motor Industry Research Association) They have been testing hydrogen cars for a good few years, Two years ago they build a whole factory dedicated to testing Hydrogen as an alternative to heating and lighting Homes. Testing is going on as someone with deep pockets is paying for all of that testing and evaluating. JCB have invested a lot in hydrogen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,286 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 8 hours ago, Deker said: Hydrogen needs to be explored far more than it is. Japan is doing well with Hydrogen cars in Japan, and Jim Radcliffe has one in the making. There are other examples of Hydrogen vehicles but they appear to get very little publicity. Electric seems a conspiracy promoted by Governments and lapped up by the gullible. Electric is NOT the saviour of all transport, it has a long way to go in terms of its Green credentials, practicality and of course cost!!! On the face of it Hydrogen has a lot going for it. So why don't we hear more about it??? Simple answer is because you can make it yourself at home and that won’t work when you have to keep all the mp,s and lords in the style they are accustomed to, when they figure out a way to make sure you only use the hydrogen they sell you it will be rolled out much the same as the cannabis 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,211 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Greyman said: Simple answer is because you can make it yourself at home and that won’t work when you have to keep all the mp,s and lords in the style they are accustomed to, when they figure out a way to make sure you only use the hydrogen they sell you it will be rolled out much the same as the cannabis 7 years in and a lot more money than I wanted to chuck at it...its not as easy as sticking a couple of electrodes in a bucket of water mate...but... its certainly the future Imo...so ill stick at it for a while longer... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 25,286 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, NEWKID said: 7 years in and a lot more money than I wanted to chuck at it...its not as easy as sticking a couple of electrodes in a bucket of water mate...but... its certainly the future Imo...so ill stick at it for a while longer... 100% agree mate should have been pushed before electric, there are plenty of people making it and showing how on YouTube so like I say they need to secure the fuel revenue before its rolled out, honesty and integrity mean absolutely nothing to those in charge only money and power 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,211 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Greyman said: 100% agree mate should have been pushed before electric, there are plenty of people making it and showing how on YouTube so like I say they need to secure the fuel revenue before its rolled out, honesty and integrity mean absolutely nothing to those in charge only money and power 100% mate Hac a lot of conversations all over the country and other parts of the world with councils, manufacturers, large fleet operators...been to trade shows and met high level players of Shell and BP...all say electric is a fallacy, unattainable, wasteful etc... I'm obviously commercially interested in this, bit even if I wasn't I'd hopd I could see the woods for the trees amongst the bullshit... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 9 Author Report Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, NEWKID said: 100% mate Hac a lot of conversations all over the country and other parts of the world with councils, manufacturers, large fleet operators...been to trade shows and met high level players of Shell and BP...all say electric is a fallacy, unattainable, wasteful etc... I'm obviously commercially interested in this, bit even if I wasn't I'd hopd I could see the woods for the trees amongst the bullshit... When a company the size of this one is actively testing and evaluating Hydrogen as a replacement for fossil fuels in all aspects of our lives , There are not doing it for themselves, They are being funded by some major players, They were testing driverless cars a few years ago, Use to see them driving around in a convoy of 3, the driverless car was in the middle, A couple of years ago a faulty battery on an electric car lead to a fire that destroyed a whole triple unit of electric vehicle's. https://www.horiba-mira.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 530 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 i know hybrid cars are a waste of time,a 250 mile trip in my 2012 Skoda Yeti 1.6 TDI Greenline(2WD) did an average of 75mpg, same trip in new Ford Puma 1.0L hybrid did the same trip at and averaged 43mpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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