WILF 50,264 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 43 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: How does that work at this point? Like, what guarantees would Russia need to be sure that as soon as they’re out NATO doesn’t role in with, what we now know is, a far superior force. I’m not sure they’d accept any promises at this point. Trust is non existent. If Russia agreed to a ceasefire but not to leaving (as a guarantee) then that’s tantamount to a bloodless victory for them. I agree, maybe they maintain a buffer zone ? I genuinely don’t know mate but I do think we have provoked Putin 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,922 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, paul sr said: When the sanctions start to take affect, China will help Russia bypass the sanctions. But there will be terms and conditions. Nah mate most sanctions are freezing of assets , shutting down currencies, banks, businesses, personal accounts, etc etc. China might have offered to buy oil and gas or raw materials, but not much they can do to replace money, and if Russia has nothing China won't want to know, another important reason Russia won't be allowed to win is that China will see it as a free pass .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,684 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 China have basically said today that they are holding Russia a arms length over this, how much of that is actually true I don't know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,922 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, WILF said: I agree, maybe they maintain a buffer zone ? I genuinely don’t know mate but I do think we have provoked Putin Do you think he genuinely felt threatened by the EU , whom he supplies oil and gas as well as a miriad of other goods.... Do you believe Ukraine were likely to get into NATO , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) I’m a bit concerned that after the clusterfuck shitzkrieg we’ve seen, the yanks will get brave next time and actually kick off something serious! I can’t believe some on that side are entertaining the idea of a no fly zone! Edited March 1, 2022 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,684 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, WILF said: I agree, maybe they maintain a buffer zone ? I genuinely don’t know mate but I do think we have provoked Putin As RB put it in his latest video, it all depends on where you start the clock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,922 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, kanny said: China have basically said today that they are holding Russia a arms length over this, how much of that is actually true I don't know USA was importing twice what they exported to China , so trump began to rebalance the import export, something like 300-600 billion deficit. I think it's mighty likely that USA has the world by the dollar, and anyone trying to get around it isn't going to last long, whether Libya or any other state. If I were donning a tin hat I might say Russia was contemplating crypto conversion with China lol. I'm kidding mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,922 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I can’t believe some on that side are actually entertaining the idea of a no fly zone! Do you mean no fly zone for Russia over Ukraine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 928 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 China has it's own equivalent of the swift payment system. There was an nuclear agreement with Iran and everyone was happy with, but Israel wasn't, then trump was elected and scrapped the agreement. Then Trump imposed severe sanctions on Iran. Now China and Iran have strong economic and military ties . America pulls out of Afghanistan and China moves in. When the West makes enemies ,China makes friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,684 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Borr said: Could NATO/EU/UK go in and hammer Belarus military, as within Europe and assisting foreign forces? It's western meddling that push Belarus further into putins hands...another fuk up we need to own Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Borr said: Do you mean no fly zone for Russia over Ukraine? Yes. Ukraine are pleading for it and some, especially in the us believe we should be looking into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,922 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 not sure how recent or even if genuine, but there's been a few videos now.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,922 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, paul sr said: China has it's own equivalent of the swift payment system. There was an nuclear agreement with Iran and everyone was happy with, but Israel wasn't, then trump was elected and scrapped the agreement. Then Trump imposed severe sanctions on Iran. Now China and Iran have strong economic and military ties . America pulls out of Afghanistan and China moves in. When the West makes enemies ,China makes friends. How's China in Afghanistan? Iran was at it long before trump came along, I'm not saying USA hasn't meddled plenty, what is the China Iran relationship about , just oil? Surely sanctions prevent that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,969 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Apple have stopped selling in Russia and disabled Apple Pay and removed Russia Today and Sputnik News from its App Store. Might not seem much but Russia is getting more and more isolated. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Borr said: not sure how recent or even if genuine, but there's been a few videos now.... That’s from a few days ago at the start of the invasion. There’s one from today where they spank one, you see the hit and the crash. All the other choppers immediately start firing flares. Looks legit but who knows… Edited March 1, 2022 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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