Saluki's and their crosses.

[Havelightforcewilltravel 417]

6 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Good theory mate but even a 8kg difference is massive in dogs isn't it, you'd think that it would have a bearing on the bottomless ground. 

As you know yourself mate nothing is ever black & white with dogs. 

No nothing is a suppose the littler dogs get strength and energy sucked out of them quicker but not always the case.

[mushroom 14,080]

30 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

Good theory mate but even a 8kg difference is massive in dogs isn't it, you'd think that it would have a bearing on the bottomless ground. 

As you know yourself mate nothing is ever black & white with dogs. 

Moose, caribou, wolves, camels etc all run in deep bottomless ground, so weight isn’t the issue 

Feet play the biggest part imo.

[shaaark 11,407]

7 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Moose, caribou, wolves, camels etc all run in deep bottomless ground, so weight isn’t the issue 

Feet play the biggest part imo.

That's why Magoo prefers his dogs to carry a bit of seal in the breeding.  Absolute slop machines. 

[Greb147 6,810]

12 minutes ago, mushroom said:

Moose, caribou, wolves, camels etc all run in deep bottomless ground, so weight isn’t the issue 

Feet play the biggest part imo.

Probably does make some difference as CN said Casper was his best dog in heavy going and he had the widest feet of any of his dogs. 

I suppose wide feet help relative to size but I wouldn't necessarily say that the biggest dogs always have the biggest feet relative to their size. 

I think the strength of the dog counts for a lot like Havelightforcewilltravel will travel said, the lighter framed dogs just struggle more to pull themselves out of the slop more than the tanks do. 

[Bosun11 537]

Nothing is ever true with this kind of debate. All lurchers are slightly different, even the best coursing machines.

Same with every hare run and again with every field trodden in. Even when everything looks the same, it really is not. Just far too many variables in every run.

On real soft ground (slop as you lot are calling it) from what i've seen, i've always prefered a bigger, more powerful dog. They seem to drive through and still kick in the gears. Not that i ain't seen smaller, lighter dogs kill hares on sodden ground, i have, many times but i like a more robust mutt for that job.

[Greb147 6,810]

All dogs prefer certain conditions but a good dog should catch on any land at any time IMO. 

What is it with some of these coursing breds being injury prone, I thought heavy saturated saluki types are meant to be brilliant at avoiding injury and can run on land and ground that would finish off a greyhoundy type? 

 

[Black neck 17,305]

1 hour ago, mushroom said:

Or hawking a chicken bone up, along with the rest of their stomach contents at 3am because the mrs left the kitchen door open and they’ve bin raided

I have 1 bitch I would match against any dog best of 3 wheelie bins anywhere in the world 

[Bosun11 537]

2 minutes ago, Black neck said:

I have 1 bitch I would match against any dog best of 3 wheelie bins anywhere in the world 

Got a bitch here that'll give you a run for ya money... She can lick a bin to feckin death..!

[Black neck 17,305]

1 minute ago, Bosun11 said:

Got a bitch here that'll give you a run for ya money... She can lick a bin to feckin death..!

Well if u fancy it ,for a grand  

[Daniel cain 48,662]

3 hours ago, Bosun11 said:

Got a bitch here that'll give you a run for ya money... She can lick a bin to feckin death..!

My bitch has done 3/3 on Sunday roasts...no retrieving mind and gobbles down the game in one go

[Black neck 17,305]

1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

My bitch has done 3/3 on Sunday roasts...no retrieving mind and gobbles down the game in one go

That's some going single handed ,mine done half a bag of layers pellets but I must confess to doubling up

[mushroom 14,080]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

That's some going single handed ,mine done half a bag of layers pellets but I must confess to doubling up

My last dog was a world beater. Swallowed two frozen together chicken fillets, whole!

[Black neck 17,305]

Just now, mushroom said:

My last dog was a world beater. Swallowed two frozen together chicken fillets, whole!

That's a once in a lifetime dog 

[mC HULL 15,833]

8 hours ago, Greb147 said:

Here's a question for you. 

Many lads claim that their smaller and lighter dogs struggle more on the bottomless ground, the lad who's pup I was going to buy said the same about his bitch. 

He said she struggled more relative to other dogs on the soft ground as she didn't have the power to plough through.

But surely on the softer ground it should be the opposite, the heavier dog will sink more than a lighter dog which will take more out of them. 

 

my bitch is 18kg ish doesnt struggle and sinks very little compared to a heavier dog 

[Greb147 6,810]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

my bitch is 18kg ish doesnt struggle and sinks very little compared to a heavier dog 

So she's better in the slop relative to your bigger and more powerful Romeo dog, see that's usually the opposite with these dogs.