Trainability

[South hams hunter 8,996]

5 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

One behind the ears sorts that

Only way to stop it, seen one travel 3 fields because it had heard a baa. f**k having to worry about that, luckily wasn't my dog or land 

[Daniel cain 49,735]

Just now, South hams hunter said:

Only way to stop it, seen one travel 3 fields because it had heard a baa. f**k having to worry about that, luckily wasn't my dog or land 

I've been.out with boys who have had a shock collar on the dog,wouldn't leave go on full blasthad to use s breaking stick that's not for me...Most important thing for me..is a dog broken to sheep...can't be living needing eyes in your arse...start that nonsense and they meet their maker,don't care how good at a job they may be

[dogmandont 10,062]

35 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

I don't think jumping is necessary, extra pressure on joints and increases chances of injury. It's a nice to have but doesn't really matter imo

If a dog can't jump round here you'll be missing a lot of stuff. 

[South hams hunter 8,996]

Just now, Daniel cain said:

I've been.out with boys who have had a shock collar on the dog,wouldn't leave go on full blasthad to use s breaking stick that's not for me...Most important thing for me..is a dog broken to sheep...can't be living needing eyes in your arse...start that nonsense and they meet their maker,don't care how good at a job they may be

Same dog was tried with shock collar, jumped and kept running.

Think sometimes aswell they think it's what they're holding/seeing causing the pain and not the collar. This subject came up with my old man the other day; when I was a teenager we had a bullx pup that was a c**t for digging up the garden. You could watch him but as soon as you turnt away he'd dig. One day put the collar on him and gave him a blast when he started digging, he would watch that hole he'd dug out the corner of his eyes and never trusted it again

[mC HULL 16,619]

34 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

I don't think jumping is necessary, extra pressure on joints and increases chances of injury. It's a nice to have but doesn't really matter imo

What happen say on Preban roe jump no bother dog just stop come bk ? 
or even bunny’s in out mesh dog needs to be able to follow 

what you do carry your dog over gates fences dykes lol 

[South hams hunter 8,996]

2 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

If a dog can't jump round here you'll be missing a lot of stuff. 

We got solid hedges down here

[South hams hunter 8,996]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

What happen say on Preban roe jump no bother dog just stop come bk ? 
or even bunny’s in out mesh dog needs to be able to follow 

what you do carry your dog over gates fences dykes lol 

As i just said to dogmandont we got solid hedges so things go through em not over them. 

You wouldn't want a dog jumping backwards and forwards over the mesh imo, takes too long and not an issue I've ever seen tbh. 

No I just open gates and walk through em

[mC HULL 16,619]

2 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

We got solid hedges down here

So do we strong dog clear one after deer bambi no can make it dog follow  

[South hams hunter 8,996]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

So do we strong dog clear one after deer bambi no can make it dog follow  

Good strong dog wouldn't let it reach the hedge 

[South hams hunter 8,996]

In all seriousness if a dog is putting enough pressure on then most times deer would bounce off the hedge as they haven't got the time to think about jumping 

[mC HULL 16,619]

2 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Good strong dog wouldn't let it reach the hedge 

What if you slip 200yds deer in stride dog has to get to it  

 

Just now, South hams hunter said:

In all seriousness if a dog is putting enough pressure on then most times deer would bounce off the hedge as they haven't got the time to think about jumping 

Even on the lamp they will clear hedgerows 

 

[mC HULL 16,619]

10 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

As i just said to dogmandont we got solid hedges so things go through em not over them. 

You wouldn't want a dog jumping backwards and forwards over the mesh imo, takes too long and not an issue I've ever seen tbh. 

No I just open gates and walk through em

Never seen a rabbit go threw sheep mesh dog follow rabbit back threw  

[South hams hunter 8,996]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

 

 

Even on the lamp they will clear hedgerows 

 

Wouldn't know

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Never seen a rabbit go threw sheep mesh dog follow rabbit back threw  

Not regular 

[Mr Wilkes 3,167]

Some time back I watched a lads lurcher bitch jump over a sheep fence chasing a rabbit, the rabbit came back through and the bitch jumped back over this went on over a distance up the fence she did nail it in the end but it was absolutely fekin brilliant to see... imo a dog that don’t jump is very limited in where you can run it and the amount of gear it takes.

[poxon 5,954]

I know a few dogs that are catching deer regularly that haven’t been taught to jump that have some good body counts my old collie x bitch wasn’t taught to jump an she did very well on roe deer she was self taught to jump but never really needed it