TOMO 28,839 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: Nigeria; oil and minerals in abundance, but a hell hole. Zimbabwe; once the "bread basket" of Africa, now a basket case. Venezuela; biggest oil reserves in the world, but their people are starving. Mexico; part of North America and a member of NAFTA along with America and Canada, but their people risk their lives to cross the border. North Korea; Regular famines, yet South Korea is one of the richest, most successful countries in the world. Why is this ? The only common denominator I can see is corrupt governance. Cheers. or at least more corrupt than the rest ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,810 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, WILF said: Given the chance again I would definitely vote for PR, last time I was thick as shit enough to believe all the bullshit and I voted against. That was a massive mistake, we need to break the two party system. However, that said, our politics is almost a mirror image of all western politics.....our two party’s could be any given two party’s right across Europe and indeed the United States. Many people won’t accept that in the U.K. , Tory and Labour are one and the same animal......until everyone understands that, we won’t change anything. Those people have no interest in creating an environment where people and planet matter most. Better still, remove parties altogether and run an individual system voted in on merit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,506 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, SONOFSOIL said: Fella let me tell you 1 thing about africa, if the country's of the world gave back what they've looted, Africans would be drinking fine champagne not water. I guess the inhabitants of the most resources rich continent in the world were just " getting ready " to implement their plans when big nasty whitey came along and took it.....thats what it was Edited March 30, 2021 by gnasher16 2 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,336 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Better still, remove parties altogether and run an individual system voted in on merit. I have my own personal little idea that it should be done like jury service mate, a pool of candidates in each area selected at random and then folks vote for one of them. No professional politicians allowed ! Haha 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,506 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, South hams hunter said: Any man willing to leave his wife and kids for 7 years just to make money is a hero I did that and copped a divorce for my troubles Edited March 30, 2021 by gnasher16 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,336 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Im going to give this a watch, apparently it’s pretty sobering stuff ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,988 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, WILF said: Im going to give this a watch, apparently it’s pretty sobering stuff ! All my angling mates have been posting about that. Gonna watch it myself tonight once kids are asleep. Think it'll need its own thread though Wilf, people probably won't click on this after the shit that happened previously Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,336 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: All my angling mates have been posting about that. Gonna watch it myself tonight once kids are asleep. Think it'll need its own thread though Wilf, people probably won't click on this after the shit that happened previously No certain someone, no shit.....so today’s it’s been fine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,988 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, WILF said: No certain someone, no shit.....so today’s it’s been fine Goes back to what many have said about men in a pub don't it, most will sit and converse correctly even with different opinions 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,433 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 15:24, Greb147 said: self sufficient Amos .......... f****n great!! ...... lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,104 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 hours ago, sandymere said: One way to stop the one party control is to use a form of proportional representation, the conservatives got 43% of the vote yet hold a massive majority in parliament which means the majority of voters didn't vote for them yet they have a minority say. Seem to remember UKIP getting a huge margin and havingnonlynone elected MP What's good for the goose, is good for the gander 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 28,019 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, mushroom said: Seem to remember UKIP getting a huge margin and havingnonlynone elected MP What's good for the goose, is good for the gander UKIP got more votes than the SNP. SNP got around 56 seats. UKIP got none. Yep, not really democratic.......... Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,104 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, chartpolski said: UKIP got more votes than the SNP. SNP got around 56 seats. UKIP got none. Yep, not really democratic.......... Cheers. But that's a good and representative system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 In 2017 UKIP got 12.6% of the vote which put them in 3rd place and with a a house of commons of 650 members would have given them seats in proportional representation. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, sandymere said: In 2017 UKIP got 12.6% of the vote which put them in 3rd place and with a a house of commons of 650 members would have given them seats in proportional representation. As many as the SNP and Lib dems combined, i might not agree with their policies but I do agree that their votes should have due representation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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