Born Hunter 17,639 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mushroom said: US have just published that they have hit the half a mil mark for corvid deaths..... do you really believe there are more than 500,000 abortions in a year, in the US alone? I would. Mate the numbers are huge. It's like 200k in the UK and only like 3% are a medical/health necessity. Edited February 23, 2021 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,247 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, pesky1972 said: ‘sake.., 2 inches How do i go about booking this swab please i thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,393 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Born Hunter said: I would. Mate the numbers are huge. It's like 200k in the UK and only like 3% are a medical/health necessity. I cannae mind that mate. If that's true, it's fuucking ridiculous. Start aborting the mothers and fathers at the same time and have a house clear! Imo medical and extreme reasons are the only reasons for abortion. Not keeping it in your pants or being sensible are not justifiable reasons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, mushroom said: I cannae mind that mate. If that's true, it's fuucking ridiculous. Start aborting the mothers and fathers at the same time and have a house clear! Imo medical and extreme reasons are the only reasons for abortion. Not keeping it in your pants or being sensible are not justifiable reasons. its their choice mate, cant deny them that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, mushroom said: I cannae mind that mate. If that's true, it's fuucking ridiculous. Start aborting the mothers and fathers at the same time and have a house clear! Imo medical and extreme reasons are the only reasons for abortion. Not keeping it in your pants or being sensible are not justifiable reasons. Here's another terrible stat, iirc around like 40% are repeat 'aborters'. ie not their first time. Genuinely, I downloaded the official numbers from the .gov a few years ago. It tells you the different medical justifications and how many they represent, age demographics and what stage of prenatal development the embryo/foetus was in when aborted. I'm still not against abortion but it's time we dropped the sugar coated talk and recognised it for what it is, authorised euthanasia of prenatal humans out of pragmatism, not emergency. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,393 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, South hams hunter said: its their choice mate, cant deny them that Im not, I'm saying I feel like It's a bloody cop out. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,393 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Born Hunter said: Here's another terrible stat, iirc around like 40% are repeat 'aborters'. ie not their first time. Genuinely, I downloaded the official numbers from the .gov a few years ago. It tells you the different medical justifications and how many they represent, age demographics and what stage of prenatal development the embryo/foetus was in when aborted. I'm still not against abortion but it's time we dropped the sugar coated talk and recognised it for what it is, authorised euthanasia of prenatal humans out of pragmatism, not emergency. Exactly mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 On the other hand Poland effectively outlawed abortion quite recently. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 I find the whole public discussion on it totally bizarre tbh. On the one hand you've got people who are fighting for the rights of women over their own bodies but seemingly don't care about the right to life of a prenatal human. Then of course you have the philosophical argument of what exactly constitutes 'life', ie at what point of development does an embryo/foetus become a human with rights? Many would argue at the foetal stage, when it starts to look human right? But that is countered by 'so it wouldn't be murder if I assaulted a woman with the intention of causing her to abort her embryonic child due to the physical trauma'? It'd be what, just simple GBH? And almost all debates go straight to the medical emergency justification even though those cases are a tiny proportion of the total. They're basically irrelevant. Similarly though most 'pro-lifers' don't want to accept the reality of not giving women the option. Banning shit is rarely a solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, mushroom said: Im not, I'm saying I feel like It's a bloody cop out. course it is and i couldn't ever agree to it but its choice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I find the whole public discussion on it totally bizarre tbh. On the one hand you've got people who are fighting for the rights of women over their own bodies but seemingly don't care about the right to life of a prenatal human. Then of course you have the philosophical argument of what exactly constitutes 'life', ie at what point of development does an embryo/foetus become a human with rights? Many would argue at the foetal stage, when it starts to look human right? But that is countered by 'so it wouldn't be murder if I assaulted a woman with the intention of causing her to abort her embryonic child due to the physical trauma'? It'd be what, just simple GBH? And almost all debates go straight to the medical emergency justification even though those cases are a tiny proportion of the total. They're basically irrelevant. Similarly though most 'pro-lifers' don't want to accept the reality of not giving women the option. Banning shit is rarely a solution. The vast majority of abortions are cases of foetal abnormalities, I believe parents should be given the choice on the matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 4,930 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said: How do i go about booking this swab please i thank you Not sure IWW, still only being used in China. Did find another article about it saying we should start practicing for the test by sticking a cotton bud up (minimum of 2”) and twirling it around a bit. Let me know how you get on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Greb147 said: The vast majority of abortions are cases of foetal abnormalities, I believe parents should be given the choice on the matter. Not true mate. Quote Ground E abortions are those performed because of fetal abnormality at any gestation. There were 3,183 abortions performed under ground E in 2019. This is a slight fall since 2018, when there were 3,269. In both 2018 and 2019, only 2% of abortions were performed under ground E (Table 3). https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/891405/abortion-statistics-commentary-2019.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,639 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Quote The proportion of abortions performed under different grounds has remained similar to previous years. In 2019, 98% of abortions (202,975) were performed under ground C. Quote The vast majority (99.9%) of abortions carried out under ground C alone were reported as being performed because of a risk to the woman’s mental health. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/891405/abortion-statistics-commentary-2019.pdf Edited February 23, 2021 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Born Hunter said: Not true mate. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/891405/abortion-statistics-commentary-2019.pdf Yeah I've just seen it but it stated on the BBC website that was the leading cause for abortion in Poland. The leading cause in the UK is to cut the risk of harm to the pregnant woman, giving birth is of a greater risk than termination. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.