to have the corvid jab or not

[Francie 6,368]

More money for the very rich,big companies making huge profits,an now we need a different jab every year cause its mutating hahahaha

This is comedy gold,its another mutated strain of the flu ffs now I'm not saying a serious flu isn't harsh,cause I had it few year back,but by f**k this isca f***ing joke.

It's a mutated strain of the flu which now sandu is telling us that well need vaccinated twice year,every year until our deaths

This is complete madness,how does folk not realise there taking the hand out of us?

So if I dont get the flu vaccine every year,an I'm fine for years,then what's the sense in getting the covid jab.

Yet fecking blind if ye didn't see this coming,roll on chinas manipulation of the west.

Edited January 12, 2021 by Francie

[sandymere 8,263]

32 minutes ago, Francie said:

Ye couldnt make this shit up could you,you could see this coming a country mile away.

So new strains are appearing or mutating,in weeks an mo ths,an there could be recurring different strains every year,so we all need jabbed every year with different strains

Sounds to me like the flu sandy,exactly like it,theres hundreds of flu strains,an they pick which they think most likely that year,an that's your vaccine.

I'm not the brightest an unseen this coming.

So were has all the flu gone sandy?

The flu isn't comparable to Covid and we have a vaccine for the flu which is updated to react to new strains, the same is likely for Covid as I've already said. Did you expect something different??

Basically this is the beginning of our ongoing management of Covid,  once we have enough people vaccinated we can then move on the preventative measure such as yearly vaccines as we do with Flu and so hopefully reduce the incidence to manageable levels, as vaccines have done with measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio and haemophilus influenza type b.

 

Thank science 

 

[Greyman 31,243]

45 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

How do you know they're NHS staff? 

If I had to hazard a guess it would be when I read a news article saying how many nhs staff had already refused to take it, but like any other news they want to keep from the brainwashed it did not stick around for long though I,m sure a techie guy like yourself could trawl it up if you really want to

[sandymere 8,263]

6 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Fook that ey ‘yearly vax potentially playing havoc with your health for something with such a low kill rate.

They would be better off funding cures for cancer ‘malaria and the likes

So your happy for yourself or your family  to have long term lung damage from Covid when a vaccine could prevent that in the majority of cases and if enough have the vaccine save those not protected from coming into contact with the virus in the 1st place ie herd immunity????

We are searching for cures for cancer etc, there are even vaccines to prevent or treat cancers.https://www.cancer.net/navigating-cancer-care/how-cancer-treated/immunotherapy-and-vaccines/what-are-cancer-vaccines

Vaccines don't play havoc with your health they protect it and those around you.

[South hams hunter 8,986]

6 minutes ago, Greyman said:

If I had to hazard a guess it would be when I read a news article saying how many nhs staff had already refused to take it, but like any other news they want to keep from the brainwashed it did not stick around for long though I,m sure a techie guy like yourself could trawl it up if you really want to

Found 1 article from the sun, do you trust that as a source? Apparently 40 percent are refusing

[sandymere 8,263]

5 minutes ago, Greyman said:

If I had to hazard a guess it would be when I read a news article saying how many nhs staff had already refused to take it, but like any other news they want to keep from the brainwashed it did not stick around for long though I,m sure a techie guy like yourself could trawl it up if you really want to

I've seen nurses queuing for hours on days off to get the vaccine, I've not met one yet who is refusing, even a colleague who carries an adrenaline pen for allergies is phoning the hub daily to try to get a vaccine done as soon as possible. 

In general I'll stick to evidence based published sources of information that are peer reviewed rather than newspaper article for my advice.

[sandymere 8,263]

4 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

How many kids worldwide have died of Covid ?

How many have long term lung damage ?

More chance of that by being around smokers or smoking themselfs as youngsters .

And? 

How many die of measles, yet we vaccinate. If children get mild damage will that come back to haunt them in latter life as it does with other respiratory illnesses. 

How many middle aged or older need to either die or get long term health impacts before we should vaccinate????

How many of our older generations have to die before we vaccinate?

Can you produce any evidence that the vaccine is harmful or that it has not undergone all the normal safety checks???

All medicine is a balance of risks, in the balance the vaccines benefits far outweighs the result of not vaccinating.

[South hams hunter 8,986]

6 minutes ago, sandymere said:

I've seen nurses queuing for hours on days off to get the vaccine, I've not met one yet who is refusing, even a colleague who carries an adrenaline pen for allergies is phoning the hub daily to try to get a vaccine done as soon as possible. 

In general I'll stick to evidence based published sources of information that are peer reviewed rather than newspaper article for my advice.

I don't think many will refuse it, especially medical professionals which is obviously not the same as NHS staff is it 

[sandymere 8,263]

8 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

Found 1 article from the sun, do you trust that as a source? Apparently 40 percent are refusing

The Sun??? printing utter bollocks as usual, the feckers are scrabbling for it

[South hams hunter 8,986]

6 minutes ago, sandymere said:

And? 

How many die of measles, yet we vaccinate. If children get mild damage will that come back to haunt them in latter life as it does with other respiratory illnesses. 

How many middle aged or older need to either die or get long term health impacts before we should vaccinate????

How many of our older generations have to die before we vaccinate?

Can you produce any evidence that the vaccine is harmful or that it has not undergone all the normal safety checks???

All medicine is a balance of risks, in the balance the vaccines benefits far outweighs the result of not vaccinating.

Really we shouldn't have any die from anything before we vaccinated people. 

Noone can produce any evidence that it hasn't undergone checks or that's it harmful.

I.e measle death see below pic ; it's year, notifications and then deaths 

[sandymere 8,263]

3 minutes ago, South hams hunter said:

I don't think many will refuse it, especially medical professionals which is obviously not the same as NHS staff is it 

Indeed, basically doctors and nurses in the great majority think all the anti vac Covid denialists are , plainly put, absolutely stupid.

https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/

 

[iworkwhippets 13,134]

wouldn't say stupid Sandy  just wary of all the rumours

[Greyman 31,243]

9 minutes ago, sandymere said:

I've seen nurses queuing for hours on days off to get the vaccine, I've not met one yet who is refusing, even a colleague who carries an adrenaline pen for allergies is phoning the hub daily to try to get a vaccine done as soon as possible. 

In general I'll stick to evidence based published sources of information that are peer reviewed rather than newspaper article for my advice.

So they are Phoning daily knowing they are not within the guidelines and will be refused the jab come on man, stop talking shit to further your case, I don’t work in the nhs and only know a tiny percentage of the medical professionals that you should and I know a few that will refuse it as long as possible, I also no nurses that lie about taking the flu jab yearly, unless you and south hams do actually live in utopia I think there is a little bit of fibbing going on and not every person in your area are as compliant as you are trying to portray

[South hams hunter 8,986]

2 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Indeed, basically doctors and nurses in the great majority think all the anti vac Covid denialists are , plainly put, absolutely stupid.

https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-believe-lockdown-sceptics/

 

That's what I was thinking; the NHS staff refusing it would be the non medical staff

[sandymere 8,263]

1 minute ago, South hams hunter said:

Really we shouldn't have any die from anything before we vaccinated people. 

Noone can produce any evidence that it hasn't undergone checks or that's it harmful.

I.e measle death see below pic ; it's year, notifications and then deaths 

Measles is interesting in that it wipes out a child's immunity to other viruses causing an increased all cause mortality after infection.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-benefits-of-the-measles-vaccine-go-beyond-just-protecting-against-measles/