Ken's Deputy 4,462 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just happened across a report where by a pair of intrepid lads went to great lengths to get into the arse end of no where, Alaska ~ even by Alaskan standards. One, at least, was there with the sole intention to kill a random moose. A moose which lived there, perfectly naturally. Was getting on with its life and doing this guy no harm. Okay. I perfectly get that the moose would have provided up to 600 Ilbs of meat. I wouldn't have said no to a pound or two of it myself! And, obviously, I appreciate the certain 'Buzz' one gets from a hunt. Have I made myself plain enough, so far? Only, this guy finds a wandering moose. Doing its own, moosely thing. Blows its fukking lungs out, with a high powered weapon moose has never conceptualised. All is good. Then, as Mr Apex Predator sets about divvying up his spoils ~ and his mate is carting away moose portion no. 1. A random grizzly bear, a grizz which lived there, perfectly naturally, happened upon our intrepid, wannabe, " Mr Apex Predator ". Said bear ripped Mr A's head off. Shit down his neck. And scoffed the dead moose. Problem? Yet, now, half of Merica's big, tough, Hunt'n n Trapp'n, wanna be 'Mountain Men' types are giving it the 'Thoughts and Prayers. Poor kid. So Young!' shit. Just got me thinking; How about if a rabbit was Really capable of doing the Monty Python job? Never mind your dog getting a broken leg, or neck chasing it. And you deciding to shoot it as now 'Useless'. OBE Material. How about if going out after some random, minding its own business, leaving you alone, creature could very well end up with You having your head torn off and guts ripped out. Just because. Any volunteers for the BDS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 12,022 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I’m more interested in what you consumed last night but I have thought about the fact you can go out in the countryside here an not worry about a animal Killing you apart from cows that is. imagine if there were wolves or bears here but You still can’t carry a gun? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,645 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 A Hunter gets killed ,fellow hunters mourn him ,why does that upset you kenny ? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,763 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I think the op,s question is would we still be happy to hunt rabbits if there was a possibility of death, and for me that’s a definite yes as the Adrenalin rush from being in that situation is beyond belief and no number of rabbits can match it,, that said if I just wanted a nice safe meal for me and mine I,m quite happy with the relative safety of rabbits and squirrels 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,506 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 As somebody with an interest in the competitive side of bulldogs many years ago i used to constantly ask myself the same question " how many of these f****n idiots would put themselves through even a fraction of what they are asking of their dogs ".....and my conclusion was very few.....but then years later having taken an interest in hunting and the different types of dogs involved,comparisons etc....i quickly realised you cannot compare competition to hunting as competition has to be fair by its very nature and hunting cannot be fair by its very nature.....so in conclusion.... if a bunny could carry a gun then man would just carry a bigger gun and thats ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I dunno about rabbit's with shivs but if you're looking for volunteers for bears, lions and what not then put me on the list. The only factor in this for me personally is money. If I die in my thirties leopard hunting in the bushveld or whatever then I'll have lived and died true to myself. f**k what anyone else thinks. 4 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Maybe I’ve read too many books on hunting in Africa, and story’s about Man eating lions and Tigers. And tales of daring hunters and how they brought their nemesis to book . I think as a hunter it’s possibly the ultimate. It’s a calculated risk , nobody who goes into that situation believes they will die . You put yourself in a situation that is dangerous, but you believe that you have the knowledge and skill set to deal with it . If you don’t you will be found out . Unfortunately as a Brit , if I went to Africa to hunt leopard or lion , it would be with a PH . Who wouldn’t allow me to get into too dangerous a situation , as a dead hunter is bad for business. The same is true if I went to the states to hunt bear . I envy the American hunter who can still get a tag to shoot bear . They have real unspoilt wilderness to hunt , that has an element of danger. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 If I’ve got a gun I will hunt anything as I feel I’ve equalled up the odds as obviously a man cannot take on an apex predator unarmed. If you are truly in the wild on your own even with a gun you are at a disadvantage and your skill as a hunter and bushcraft will be what keeps you alive. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,920 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Are we talking normal size highly aggressive rabbits or have they grown huge? 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,763 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: I dunno about rabbit's with shivs but if you're looking for volunteers for bears, lions and what not then put me on the list. The only factor in this for me personally is money. If I die in my thirties leopard hunting in the bushveld or whatever then I'll have lived and died true to myself. f**k what anyone else thinks. Try some of this mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, shovel leaner said: Maybe I’ve read too many books on hunting in Africa, and story’s about Man eating lions and Tigers. And tales of daring hunters and how they brought their nemesis to book . I think as a hunter it’s possibly the ultimate. It’s a calculated risk , nobody who goes into that situation believes they will die . You put yourself in a situation that is dangerous, but you believe that you have the knowledge and skill set to deal with it . If you don’t you will be found out . Unfortunately as a Brit , if I went to Africa to hunt leopard or lion , it would be with a PH . Who wouldn’t allow me to get into too dangerous a situation , as a dead hunter is bad for business. The same is true if I went to the states to hunt bear . I envy the American hunter who can still get a tag to shoot bear . They have real unspoilt wilderness to hunt , that has an element of danger. The only way to do it satisfactorily would be to be the PH. Pay your dues and years later wait for that day when a client fucks up and you get to pit your wits against the master of ambush. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Greyman said: Try some of this mate Ghosts in the darkness. Great film. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shovel leaner 7,650 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said: The only way to do it satisfactorily would be to be the PH. Pay your dues and years later wait for that day when a client fucks up and you get to pit your wits against the master of ambush. I think I will stick to reading about it , it’s a lot safer. Check out “Death in the long grass “ by Peter Hathaway Capstick . I think you will like it . I couldn’t put it down . 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,910 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Greyman said: Try some of this mate Yeah, read about them and Corbett's man eaters of India. Different times, never to be seen again. A little known bowhunter, Paul Schaffer, lived an interesting life. Amongst many other tales, he was part of the bowhunting trials for the Zim' Government when they were trying to decide if they wanted to legalise bowhunting. He used his own handmade recurve bows and took buff' and lion under observation. In fact he took one lioness off the back of his mate during an attack! The fella was the real deal. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 12,030 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I wouldn't pull the trigger on a bear or lion or any big cat.to be honest.unless my life depended on it. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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