king 11,964 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, ginger beard said: What are you on about.? Shit up you druggy cnut, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,562 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, king said: Shit up you druggy cnut, While that insult is straight to the point ,has the advantage of brevity and is not without its own brand of coarse humour , it's not up to the standards demanded on the general section .bear in mind that your aim should be to be as offensive as possible whilst also being slightly witty ( subtle innuendos can be very effective ) .I suggest you read Greb and Maxs verbal rally to give yourself an idea of the standard required . 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,964 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Astanley said: While that insult is straight to the point ,has the advantage of brevity and is not without its own brand of coarse humour , it's not up to the standards demanded on the general section .bear in mind that your aim should be to be as offensive as possible whilst also being slightly witty ( subtle innuendos can be very effective ) .I suggest you read Greb and Maxs verbal rally to give yourself an idea of the standard required . And that's excately where someone's patience runs very thin. I will and have helped many a person in my life. the last 1 being a frail old fella across the road and I felt very happy helping him out. But responding or talking to a total wrong un is way beyond me nowadays. I can't be doing with them in real life let alone the interweb. And such a person seems to respond very well to a good strangling. Infact I think they like the attention... It does seem a change from the normal behaviour of a general talk fan.. But feck em... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,692 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, king said: And that's excately where someone's patience runs very thin. I will and have helped many a person in my life. the last 1 being a frail old fella across the road and I felt very happy helping him out. But responding or talking to a total wrong un is way beyond me nowadays. I can't be doing with them in real life let alone the interweb. And such a person seems to respond very well to a good strangling. Infact I think they like the attention... It does seem a change from the normal behaviour of a general talk fan.. But feck em... Who do you want to strangle mate? Ooh yeah, almost forgot, and the strangling, would that be pre or post 'rimming'? Edited August 29, 2020 by shaaark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginger beard 4,652 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 52 minutes ago, king said: Shit up you druggy cnut, I'm shocked at the hostile response to what was a amicable question. What is better beetroot or ham.? Was just wanting to know how it fitted in with this thread.please explain dean because I'm at a loss. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginger beard 4,652 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, king said: And that's excately where someone's patience runs very thin. I will and have helped many a person in my life. the last 1 being a frail old fella across the road and I felt very happy helping him out. But responding or talking to a total wrong un is way beyond me nowadays. I can't be doing with them in real life let alone the interweb. And such a person seems to respond very well to a good strangling. Infact I think they like the attention... It does seem a change from the normal behaviour of a general talk fan.. But feck em... Just seen a gang of light aircraft flying in a v formation. Was that you dean.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Greb147 said: Ali fought Terrell who was around 6"6' and toyed with him, Fury is not his billed height as he was barely taller than Wilder. Carrying that weight won't help him in a 15 round bout, it may help him in the clinches but like I said Ali was as strong as an ox in the clinch. You also have to remember he was adaptable and at his prime he wouldn't be caught up in the clinch, he'd just use his superior footspeed to get in and out. Well wilder is billed at 6'7" so about right really he looked 2 inches taller to me. If scientists brought Ali back to fight fury my money would be on fury 6'9" with all the knowledge of the game Ali had plus 50 years of learning since, athletes get better in every other sport. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said: Well wilder is billed at 6'7" so about right really he looked 2 inches taller to me. If scientists brought Ali back to fight fury my money would be on fury 6'9" with all the knowledge of the game Ali had plus 50 years of learning since, athletes get better in every other sport. Look at every face to face between the pair, there's half a inch difference for me at most. I disagree with you, I don't think knowledge has improved in fact I think the trainers have regressed from the glory days. Sports science has certainly improved but that does nothing for the intricacies of the sweet science itself. Boxing is so technical you just can't say fighter A is better than fighter B just because he is in the modern era. There ain't no way Fury is more skilled or fitter than an Ali who was at his peak 50 odd years ago. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Look at every face to face between the pair, there's half a inch difference for me at most. I disagree with you, I don't think knowledge has improved in fact I think the trainers have regressed from the glory days. Sports science has certainly improved but that does nothing for the intricacies of the sweet science itself. Boxing is so technical you just can't say fighter A is better than fighter B just because he is in the modern era. There ain't no way Fury is more skilled or fitter than an Ali who was at his peak 50 odd years ago. Manny Steward is as revered as any and fury spent plenty time around him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said: Manny Steward is as revered as any and fury spent plenty time around him Manny Steward was a great trainer but he didn't specifically train Fury, I wouldn't really call him a modern trainer as he had his first champion in 1980. I just feel the knowledge passed on by trainers has slowly been lost in translation. Edited August 29, 2020 by Greb147 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Manny Steward was a great trainer but he didn't specifically train Fury, I wouldn't really call him a modern trainer as he had his first champion in 1980. I just feel the knowledge passed on by trainers has slowly been lost in translation. I agree but what's been learned since will more than make up for it. Fury would hammer Ali, mediocre modern heavies like Derek chisora would give him kittens, sport moves on imo. Also fighting the odd behemoth here and there in your career is one thing but fighting 250lb men time and time again like nowadays will take its toll on a smaller man eventually. Edited August 29, 2020 by JDHUNTING Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,809 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JDHUNTING said: I agree but what's been learned since will more than make up for it. Fury would hammer Ali, mediocre modern heavies like Derek chisora would give him kittens, sport moves on imo. Also fighting the odd behemoth here and there in your career is one thing but fighting 250lb men time and time again like nowadays will take its toll on a smaller man eventually. He would hammer him, now that is beyond comical IMO. Ali took the best shots off some of the biggest punchers of all time, Shavers and Foreman are always in the discussion when talking of the biggest puncher ever. The fighters that gave Ali the most trouble were the quicker and smaller fighters, Ali would make Fury look silly. Edited August 29, 2020 by Greb147 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 44,905 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Fury is a bum.... Not good enough to hold Ali's Spit bucket.... 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,218 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 5 hours ago, king said: What's better beetroot or ham... Pease pud You know ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,692 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Fury is a bum.... Not good enough to hold Ali's Spit bucket.... Fury isn't yet proven to be the best of todays heavyweights. His best win so far is the second fight with wilder. People make a big deal of his win over klitshko, but klitshko hardly threw a punch, and fury stayed away from him for 90% of the fight anyway. Was boring and poor as f**k. Wilder is poor poor poor, and he's fury's 'defining' fight!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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