applying for fac

[j j m 6,600]

thanks for info si hes pretty upset as hes bought all his gun safe and extra security thinking it was a done deal

[j j m 6,600]

thanks for info mark mate,i never really gave it a thought about his depression bout when he said he was applying for his fac

[j j m 6,600]

I see what you mean phillpot bud,horrible thing to go through depression ,then when your over it it still effects you in different ways,i don't think he gave it a thought when applying for his fac to be truthefull neither did I ,it was just a low point in his life it happens to a lot of people especially after your wife leaves you for another bloke and clears your house out

[big napper 3,630]

That must have been horrible for him mate, its a pitty its now interfering with is hobby aswell as everything else

[Greyman 30,217]

6 hours ago, walshie said:

No. Shouldn't make any difference at all. 

In answer to the original question, I think depression might be taken into consideration for longer than 5 years and rightly so. Whatever the reason for suffering it, that person is obviously susceptible to it and it doesn't just go away one day. 

I would go with Walshie on this as my sister married young to a total prick, womanising wife beating bag of shit, roll forward 30 odd years and happily married to a guy that idealises her and provides her with a good standard of living, she is a school prefect type never a day of trouble in her life and happily married for 30 years, her husband does the odd bit of clay shooting and thought it would be a simple form filling exercise to get her licence so they could go together but oh no, she was prescribed anti depressants during that early period of life and it came back to bite her on the arse, she did get the ticket in the end but after a lot more trouble than a normal application including reassurances from her doctor that it was a one off due to extreme circumstances, so yes I think anti depressants will be treated very seriously for a bit longer than 5 years, the mad taxi driver saw to that when he shot family and friends with a couple of legally owned licensed shooters, a few years back

[walshie 2,804]

I still don't see how a question about depression affecting a FAC turned into a springer on a tripod vs a freehand PCP. 

[si brown 8,486]

13 minutes ago, walshie said:

I still don't see how a question about depression affecting a FAC turned into a springer on a tripod vs a freehand PCP. 

that'll sort of be my fault 

the after five year thing is more a doctors prospective.. likes been said above, theres all sorts of kinds of depression and reasons for being prescribed pills!

im not going into it but there are people who shouldn't be allowed fac for there own safety or the safety of others and other people who don't fall into that bracket!

[mark williams 7,563]

29 minutes ago, walshie said:

I still don't see how a question about depression affecting a FAC turned into a springer on a tripod vs a freehand PCP. 

My reply of why not encourage the lad to shoot a 12 ft/lbs springer as it takes far more skill/ field craft blah, blah, blah 

                  It`s like waving a red flag in a bull ring on here at times with some FAC shooters.

[si brown 8,486]

8 hours ago, mark williams said:

No Simon, i never have, or ever will take drugs of any kind .

                   The rest is just opinions.

                   We are allowed an opinion you know.

                   Lets be open and honest here,- anyone can shoot a pcp.

                   Not anyone can shoot a spring rifle off a set of Primos, fence post ( much steadier), tree, etc,etc.

 

                                        atb  Mark.

simon...haha, that's me in the sh1t

yeah we do all have opinions but the lads with fac don't shove it down everyone else's neck!

[villaman 9,982]

So how do they class  anxiety because a lot have anti depressants tablets for that ?  

[philpot 5,067]

It just seems that you like to knock fac users Mark by droning on and on about using springers and how any bugger can use a pcp. I openly admit to being crap with a springer but love using both sub12 and fac.

You obviously love using your Springer which is great but please stop ramming down our throats that it is the only skilfull method to hunt with an air rifle, because Mark it is not.

Phil

[mark williams 7,563]

See what i mean  

                  

[bigmac 97kt 13,823]

1 hour ago, mark williams said:

My reply of why not encourage the lad to shoot a 12 ft/lbs springer as it takes far more skill/ field craft blah, blah, blah 

                  It`s like waving a red flag in a bull ring on here at times with some FAC shooters.

Im not an fac shooter mark

and i can shoot a spring rifle as good as any one

but let me tell you its not as easy to hit some thing at 100+yrds with an fac rifle as you think

pcp or bullet the lads still have to put the time in to practice

I got a shock the first time i tried it mind .

As for pushing spring rifles in every ones face as the best way to shoot

and that any one can shoot a pcp

well it was you that pushes the hw100 and how good it is but you still need to practice to achieve perfection and accuracy

my point is Mark you have to practice no matter what you shoot

pcp or fac air or bullet

even more so with fac as if you miss it could mean the end of a life

a human life .

Philpot give me a week end mate and ill have you shooting a spring rifle

like its second nature

atvbjimmy

[David.evans 5,323]

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40 yards sub 12 still needs good skills 

100 /200 yards .223 in my opinion needs better skills .  As jimmy. Has said yes you can do some major damage with air but with 22. 17 .223 if you fuc up some one could end up dead 

it's all down to the man behind the stock to be vigilant no mater what 

[j j m 6,600]

well my mate has sub 12 air rifles so hes ok ,he did not think he would not have a problem getting a fac and has some lovely land so went for it,i ve not been interested in fac air guns but like reading about the lads that shoot them,as I also enjoy marks threads I say its eache to there own ,I did not start this thread so start a argument about sub 12 lb guns and fac,just to point out what happened to my mate ,thanks chaps