micky 3,325 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I had a very good lamping Bitch she was 22 inch Beddy x Grey very soft mouthed with rabbits and very biddable her only fault was that she was a b*****d with Foxes , the dog used kill any she caught , i don't know why and never encouraged it . 1 Quote Link to post
dogmandont 9,367 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, stormyboy said: And thats why there are so many dogs sold-no effort=no reward. Slip and hope=can't be arsed to put some effort into training. Can you tell me how you train a dog to kill foxes? Maybe when I'm starting my terriers I should double them up to. They should be started the way you expect them to carry on. Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Do you take your young terrier out and just fire it into an earth ? Mine see dead ones, ragging and teasing to create plenty of antipathy toward fox. As said some won't do it, lurcher or terrier but preliminary work will increase the chance of a dog of at least trying. Slipping a young lurcher cold on a fox isn't something I would entertain but each to their own. And if you read my posts I didn't advocate doubling up a youngster. Quote Link to post
dogmandont 9,367 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I've seen plenty of lurchers and terriers not entertain a dead fox, more so lurchers as the chase is the thing that actually switches them on. So then what do you do? If the dogs been brought on right and the bloods right it's all it should need. Quote Link to post
downsouth 6,842 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, stormyboy said: Do you take your young terrier out and just fire it into an earth ? Mine see dead ones, ragging and teasing to create plenty of antipathy toward fox. As said some won't do it, lurcher or terrier but preliminary work will increase the chance of a dog of at least trying. Slipping a young lurcher cold on a fox isn't something I would entertain but each to their own. And if you read my posts I didn't advocate doubling up a youngster. If a young terrier is well bred and any good it won't need firing into an earth as you put it.It will enter out of instinct as that's what it's bred to do.Ive known plenty over the years start that way that have never seen a dead fox or been near an earth.Seen well bred lurchers kill the first fox they've ever been slipped on too. 2 Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Don't doubt it but iv also seen young lurchers turn off a fox that flew to the job after some encouraging. Like I said each to their own. The oft quoted " well bred" bit comes through when they are put under the cosh a bit once entered imo. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 If i was a purist, i'd say never but i've seen good dogs brought on either way. On here it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. One thing i know for sure, whichever way i was gonna bring on a youngster, in this day an age, i wouldn't be asking the world about it.... Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Doubling up? It's for puffs Quote Link to post
Guest edrd Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) . Edited March 3, 2018 by edrd Quote Link to post
downsouth 6,842 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 hours ago, arcticgun said: Doubling up? It's for puffs And the wrecking crew 1 Quote Link to post
Havelightforcewilltravel 417 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 A think the wrecking crew ran doubled up as had few dogs to run between the team and to achieve numbers. 2 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,169 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 05/12/2017 at 09:10, stormyboy said: And thats why there are so many dogs sold-no effort=no reward. Slip and hope=can't be arsed to put some effort into training. Once the dog's slipped on summat how do you train it what to do then Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Grab the fox and bite it's neck to show it what to do. If the dog doesn't copy kick the shit out of it. If that doesn't work sell it and buy another one. 1 4 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,169 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, stormyboy said: Grab the fox and bite it's neck to show it what to do. If the dog doesn't copy kick the shit out of it. If that doesn't work sell it and buy another one. Sounds a bit of a rum do that does Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Na it's what I do innit. Not really, I just sell the dog and buy another one until I get lucky. Been unlucky 6 times this season but I'll find a well bred killer one day Quote Link to post
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