BGD 6,385 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ? I'm going to take a guess here and apologies to Jonjon if I've got it wrong but I think it might be that whole exterminating the Jews and other "inferior" races thing that bothers him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,322 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 You've proved my point, you are deluded.... Believing in personal responsibility is deluded, righto then Then some unkind souls would say that both left and right bare the responsibility for the rise of groups like NA due to the policies they have pushed over the last 30 odd years and by default supporters of the left and right have to also bare some of that responsibility ? I was a conservative voter once so I fully accept the shame of the state we find ourself in, I was an idiot. I jumped off that train a good few years ago now when the wool disappeared from over my eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,322 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ? 6 trillion dead jews and a load of shrunken heads sound familiar? Ahh, but that was the result of an ultimatum being ignored NOT the actual political ideology I think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. No as there's far bigger threats out there like Muslim terrorism and groups like antifa who are attacking and murdering thousands 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,322 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ? I'm going to take a guess here and apologies to Jonjon if I've got it wrong but I think it might be that whole exterminating the Jews and other "inferior" races thing that bothers him I refer you to my other reply Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 You've proved my point, you are deluded....Believing in personal responsibility is deluded, righto then Then some unkind souls would say that both left and right bare the responsibility for the rise of groups like NA due to the policies they have pushed over the last 30 odd years and by default supporters of the left and right have to also bare some of that responsibility ? I was a conservative voter once so I fully accept the shame of the state we find ourself in, I was an idiot. I jumped off that train a good few years ago now when the wool disappeared from over my eyes. Can't disagree with that pal and would extend it beyond the rise of far-right extremism, if we're honest a huge amount of the societal problems we see today can be traced back to the policies of Thatcher, Blair and their successors and anyone who voted for them shares a portion of the blame. I spent the majority of that time period voting for smaller parties that were closer to my ideology though 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ? 6 trillion dead jews and a load of shrunken heads sound familiar? Ahh, but that was the result of an ultimatum being ignored NOT the actual political ideology I think? I'm talking about the incessant propaganda,not any of the real massacres that happened. Though National socialism is very progressive by nature,the man himself foresaw the extinction of the horse under his rule as it was becoming obsolete. In table talk he said words to the effect of,sadly that'll happen to the Negro too. I think you can sum it up with him laughing at someone who told him that mechanisation would put people out of work,he said the man doesn't understand national socialism at all,if mechanisation meant the autobahn's had required half the labour,they'd have made them twice as wide and long. Aside from it's inherent authoritarianism,that incessant push for societal progress and technological advancement is my main problem with the ideology. It's also the reason the ideology isn't right wing,let alone far right. Edited September 9, 2017 by neems 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 It certainly sounds like National Action want to eradicate the Jews in fact they seem to think Hitler was a bit too soft in his approach, here it is straight from the horses mouth... NEO-NAZI youth leader faces being charged with racial hatred after calling for Jews to be "eradicated" during a secret meeting of far-right nationalists. Jack Renshaw, a spokesman for National Action, that lauded Thomas Mair, who murdered Labour MP Jo Cox, also said that Hitler's only fault was to "show mercy". According to a secret recording made in February at the Yorkshire meeting, Renshaw said that white nationalists needed the "killer instinct", The Timesreported. The ex-BNP youth leader said: "Hitler was right in many senses but you know where he was wrong? He showed mercy to people who did not deserve mercy. "As nationalists we need to learn from the mistakes of the national socialists and we need to realise that, no, you do not show the Jew mercy." West Yorkshire police said they are investigating his "potential anti-semitic comments" where he could face criminal charges. Lancashire police are also investigating a separate incident where Renshaw made comments at a rally in Blackpool in March. He said that Britain took the "wrong side" in the Second World War by fighting the Nazis "who were there to remove Jewry from Europe once and for all". Renshaw is also being investigated over comments made at a public rally, in front of cops, in which he threatened to kill left-wing opponents, described Jews as "parasites" and declared that he was a Nazi. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2278102/neo-nazi-youth-leader-calls-for-jews-to-be-eradicated-and-lauds-jo-coxs-killer-at-secret-meeting/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 As this is from a year ago was he found guilty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 As this is from a year ago was he found guilty His trial is scheduled for January 2018. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,340 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?What I find distasteful is that the nazis were defeated at great cost. Yet, some silly sods, whos grandparents were likely part of that fight, think it ok to go around giving nazi salutes and saying things like 'hitler was right' It's just not British. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,340 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?I'm going to take a guess here and apologies to Jonjon if I've got it wrong but I think it might be that whole exterminating the Jews and other "inferior" races thing that bothers him Indeed. If they had won, half of my family would have been guaranteed the gas chamber. They were scum and, I can't believe that anyone in this day and age is daft enough to go along with that ideology. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?What I find distasteful is that the nazis were defeated at great cost. Yet, some silly sods, whos grandparents were likely part of that fight, think it ok to go around giving nazi salutes and saying things like 'hitler was right' It's just not British. You're wasting your fcuking breath on this section pal, you might even get points with that kind of talk....haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,032 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just out of interest bgd what field sports if any do you take part in? I hope it's nothing gun related because if the licencing authorities can't spot a deluded stoner they'll let any f*cker have a gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Seen a lot said about these lads being accused of being members of a terrorist organisation but, is no one bothered by the whole neo-nazi thing? I support our troops and, hope these lads get a fair trial but, if they really chose to identify as neo-nazis - f**k 'em. Why, what is it about that ideology that offends you ?.........is it the nationalism or the socialism ?What I find distasteful is that the nazis were defeated at great cost. Yet, some silly sods, whos grandparents were likely part of that fight, think it ok to go around giving nazi salutes and saying things like 'hitler was right' It's just not British. Maybe people are being driven to the Neo nazism because of the route the country is taking..... Something pushed the Germans towards it 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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