dymented 2,220 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Make sure people who are on the land you work your dogs know who you are as this poor chap found out . He had permission from the land owner had been doing the pest control there a few years but some one who was new to the land that shoots saw him digging and called the police and rspca he was lucky the case fell apart in court LINK he made the most of a bad situation 1 Quote Link to post
foxdropper 17,092 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Whats with the protected animal charge .The fox has never enjoyed this status . You are right about the permission bit though mate. I had some foxing and stalking on a patch of land ive done for years . Turned up recently with the rifle, parked where I always do and walked down the fields . Shot a buck and was walking back to the truck when i met a couple walking a dog and said good evening .Another field away from them I had a phone call ,an unknown number which I normally ignore .I answered it to be told it was the police, could I return to the truck . I thought I was just blocking a gateway but to cut a long story short ,the land had been sold recently and the new owners were the dog walkers I'd met ffs .Firearms checked out ,calibre checked ,serial number etc and then an awkward bit had I shot anything .I knew it was now armed trespass so said no ,the buck was in a gateway far end of the land .Another patrol car rolled up and luckily I knew the copper and he said he'd go up the farm to verify my story .Came back with an apology from the farmer for not letting me know he'd sold the land ffs . Went back in darkness to collect the buck . Could have gone badly though . 4 Quote Link to post
The one 8,398 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I went to house i had the rabbiting on for years as she had a 5 acre garden saw there was a big caravan at house and two new cars knocked on the door and she had sold up during the summer , new guy says he cant even watch wildlife programmes on the telly far less kill his rabbits Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,415 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Whats with the protected animal charge .The fox has never enjoyed this status . You are right about the permission bit though mate. I had some foxing and stalking on a patch of land ive done for years . Turned up recently with the rifle, parked where I always do and walked down the fields . Shot a buck and was walking back to the truck when i met a couple walking a dog and said good evening .Another field away from them I had a phone call ,an unknown number which I normally ignore .I answered it to be told it was the police, could I return to the truck . I thought I was just blocking a gateway but to cut a long story short ,the land had been sold recently and the new owners were the dog walkers I'd met ffs .Firearms checked out ,calibre checked ,serial number etc and then an awkward bit had I shot anything .I knew it was now armed trespass so said no ,the buck was in a gateway far end of the land .Another patrol car rolled up and luckily I knew the copper and he said he'd go up the farm to verify my story .Came back with an apology from the farmer for not letting me know he'd sold the land ffs . Went back in darkness to collect the buck . Could have gone badly though . Whats with the protected animal charge .The fox has never enjoyed this status . You are right about the permission bit though mate. I had some foxing and stalking on a patch of land ive done for years . Turned up recently with the rifle, parked where I always do and walked down the fields . Shot a buck and was walking back to the truck when i met a couple walking a dog and said good evening .Another field away from them I had a phone call ,an unknown number which I normally ignore .I answered it to be told it was the police, could I return to the truck . I thought I was just blocking a gateway but to cut a long story short ,the land had been sold recently and the new owners were the dog walkers I'd met ffs .Firearms checked out ,calibre checked ,serial number etc and then an awkward bit had I shot anything .I knew it was now armed trespass so said no ,the buck was in a gateway far end of the land .Another patrol car rolled up and luckily I knew the copper and he said he'd go up the farm to verify my story .Came back with an apology from the farmer for not letting me know he'd sold the land ffs . Went back in darkness to collect the buck . Could have gone badly though . I'm not 100% sure but as far as I know a fox cornered by a terrier at the end of a dig is in the eyes of the law now in your possession thus making it protected and it's your duty to make sure no suffering takes place. Hence the reason hard terriers are illegal. No doubt someone will contradict me but that what I believe. 3 Quote Link to post
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Whats with the protected animal charge .The fox has never enjoyed this status . You are right about the permission bit though mate. I had some foxing and stalking on a patch of land ive done for years . Turned up recently with the rifle, parked where I always do and walked down the fields . Shot a buck and was walking back to the truck when i met a couple walking a dog and said good evening .Another field away from them I had a phone call ,an unknown number which I normally ignore .I answered it to be told it was the police, could I return to the truck . I thought I was just blocking a gateway but to cut a long story short ,the land had been sold recently and the new owners were the dog walkers I'd met ffs .Firearms checked out ,calibre checked ,serial number etc and then an awkward bit had I shot anything .I knew it was now armed trespass so said no ,the buck was in a gateway far end of the land .Another patrol car rolled up and luckily I knew the copper and he said he'd go up the farm to verify my story .Came back with an apology from the farmer for not letting me know he'd sold the land ffs . Went back in darkness to collect the buck . Could have gone badly though . Whats with the protected animal charge .The fox has never enjoyed this status . You are right about the permission bit though mate. I had some foxing and stalking on a patch of land ive done for years . Turned up recently with the rifle, parked where I always do and walked down the fields . Shot a buck and was walking back to the truck when i met a couple walking a dog and said good evening .Another field away from them I had a phone call ,an unknown number which I normally ignore .I answered it to be told it was the police, could I return to the truck . I thought I was just blocking a gateway but to cut a long story short ,the land had been sold recently and the new owners were the dog walkers I'd met ffs .Firearms checked out ,calibre checked ,serial number etc and then an awkward bit had I shot anything .I knew it was now armed trespass so said no ,the buck was in a gateway far end of the land .Another patrol car rolled up and luckily I knew the copper and he said he'd go up the farm to verify my story .Came back with an apology from the farmer for not letting me know he'd sold the land ffs . Went back in darkness to collect the buck . Could have gone badly though . I'm not 100% sure but as far as I know a fox cornered by a terrier at the end of a dig is in the eyes of the law now in your possession thus making it protected and it's your duty to make sure no suffering takes place. Hence the reason hard terriers are illegal.No doubt someone will contradict me but that what I believe. It's the same with rat's caught in a live trap. 3 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,417 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 And there's still tons of lads putting video clips up of pups baiting rats in traps ! 5 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,417 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/3 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,178 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 And there's still tons of lads putting video clips up of pups baiting rats in traps !facebook see it all the time 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,608 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Keep the circles tight, mouths shut and carry on is the way forward IMO. All these gobshites on Facebook are slicing their own throats. 8 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,334 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 There going put an end to what ever bit freedom we have with terriers if there not careful with what they put up on them sites. 4 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,740 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 There going put an end to what ever bit freedom we have with terriers if there not careful with what they put up on them sites. Yeah and some of them are supposed to be well respected terrier men,but some just get a buzz out of sticking up pics of broken up terriers with game. 3 Quote Link to post
chesney 5,334 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 There going put an end to what ever bit freedom we have with terriers if there not careful with what they put up on them sites. Yeah and some of them are supposed to be well respected terrier men,but some just get a buzz out of sticking up pics of broken up terriers with game.. There some decent lads on them sites I was surprised to see some on there they usually very discreet about what they do but I suppose it's called moving with the times lol. 3 Quote Link to post
dymented 2,220 Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Whats with the protected animal charge .The fox has never enjoyed this status . You are right about the permission bit though mate. I had some foxing and stalking on a patch of land ive done for years . Turned up recently with the rifle, parked where I always do and walked down the fields . Shot a buck and was walking back to the truck when i met a couple walking a dog and said good evening .Another field away from them I had a phone call ,an unknown number which I normally ignore .I answered it to be told it was the police, could I return to the truck . I thought I was just blocking a gateway but to cut a long story short ,the land had been sold recently and the new owners were the dog walkers I'd met ffs .Firearms checked out ,calibre checked ,serial number etc and then an awkward bit had I shot anything .I knew it was now armed trespass so said no ,the buck was in a gateway far end of the land .Another patrol car rolled up and luckily I knew the copper and he said he'd go up the farm to verify my story .Came back with an apology from the farmer for not letting me know he'd sold the land ffs . Went back in darkness to collect the buck . Could have gone badly though . They class the dog as a protected animal any marks or injuries inured will result in a charge . you can get around this if your not stopped or challenged by going straight to a vet but if they stop you before you get there they will make shit up to try and get it to stick there view is the more we throw at them in court the better as something will stick 2 Quote Link to post
MickC 1,825 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 I hope the lad concerned went round and had a word with the " shooter " ! He knew exactly what he was doing when he made the calls,he's been after that permission for himself if you ask me . Quote Link to post
rob284 1,678 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Whats wrong with approaching him and asking if hes got permission? Or asking the land owner. 1 Quote Link to post
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