pesky1972 5,687 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Nature can appear very 'cruel' at times. Maybe if our society wasn't raised on the type of nature documentaries we all know and love, but where death and killing is completely sanitised, then people would better understand that most forms of hunting are actually extremely clinical & compassionate when compared with 'real life'. More guts please Sir David ? 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Superb clip Pesky! Another thumbs up for using YouTube properly! While I do think some of those documentaries have their place, you're absolutely right. I remember watching the news, in the UK, a few years before I moved away. There was a hunting montage that gave trigger warnings about "graphic content that some viewers may find distressing." Immediately afterwards they cut back to Afghanistan where they showed footage of dead kids. Not even so much of a heads up. Telly is mind control. Edited June 13, 2017 by ChrisJones 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Ouch! Probably should post this in the running dog section but what if anything would a hunting dog bring to a lurcher? Stamina, jaw strength, etc. Would it be feasible or has it been done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,593 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 They should show that at tea time all Packham's followers would be running to the toilet .Nature in its true form there 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 People need a reality check when it comes to nature. Cuddly infanticide How lions die in nature Nobody likes these ugly fuckers anyway Another bear being adorable! 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hily 380 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 points of view Mr blogs wrote in wish spring watch would stop showing those nasty magpies hurting all them little birds. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Penda 3,367 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 They never show the actual truth and all the statics that they seem to conjure up ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Penda 3,367 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 And people actually believe it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Nature can appear very 'cruel' at times. Maybe if our society wasn't raised on the type of nature documentaries we all know and love, but where death and killing is completely sanitised, then people would better understand that most forms of hunting are actually extremely clinical & compassionate when compared with 'real life'. More guts please Sir David I wonder why the wild dog didn't kill it first. I know, that long before the ban, my own lurchers, having tripped larger game, always went straight to the throat to suffocate the animal. Or is it the case, in pack animals like African Wild Dogs, where they are used to being on a kill in large numbers, it is important to get quickly into the softer underbelly to claim their share. Late to the feast, through being on the throat, means the easy to get at meat has gone. Forget trying to kill it, it will die soon enough anyway through shock and blood loss. Just wondering. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Nature can appear very 'cruel' at times. Maybe if our society wasn't raised on the type of nature documentaries we all know and love, but where death and killing is completely sanitised, then people would better understand that most forms of hunting are actually extremely clinical & compassionate when compared with 'real life'. More guts please Sir David I wonder why the wild dog didn't kill it first. I know, that long before the ban, my own lurchers, having tripped larger game, always went straight to the throat to suffocate the animal. Or is it the case, in pack animals like African Wild Dogs, where they are used to being on a kill in large numbers, it is important to get quickly into the softer underbelly to claim their share. Late to the feast, through being on the throat, means the easy to get at meat has gone. Forget trying to kill it, it will die soon enough anyway through shock and blood loss. Just wondering. For the very same reason a Great White just takes a serious bite and then waits for it's quarry to die. Why would the Hunting Dogs risk injury from those horns when death is inevitable. Our domestic hunting dogs on the other hand have been bred by ourselves to put self preservation behind the need to catch and kill. Those dogs we breed who mind themselves too much we tend to call culls. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 1,913 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) it just shows you the impals wil to try and survive,nature is fascinating no matter in what form if comes in. Edited June 13, 2017 by stonewall 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I wonder why the wild dog didn't kill it first. I know, that long before the ban, my own lurchers, having tripped larger game, always went straight to the throat to suffocate the animal. Or is it the case, in pack animals like African Wild Dogs, where they are used to being on a kill in large numbers, it is important to get quickly into the softer underbelly to claim their share. Late to the feast, through being on the throat, means the easy to get at meat has gone. Forget trying to kill it, it will die soon enough anyway through shock and blood loss. Just wondering. Maybe it likes to toy with it first... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Nature can appear very 'cruel' at times. Maybe if our society wasn't raised on the type of nature documentaries we all know and love, but where death and killing is completely sanitised, then people would better understand that most forms of hunting are actually extremely clinical & compassionate when compared with 'real life'. More guts please Sir David fair point yeh nature can be very brutal in the real world , and i think as a parent you should be honest with your child , and let them see nature for what it really is, obviously you decide at watch age a child see these things .But being honest having shot things and dogs kill things for the last 30 odd years, its very rare i watch these hunting vids with any animal being eaten alive by another animal , ive not looked at the vid on the post, i have no reason to . dont forget that all the real lefties and the bunny huggers, will say watching vids like these shows a person , with sadistic type nature , so you have to be careful how you go about this , ive met few real bunny huggers in my time, and the thought of a dog catching rabbit would give them a heart attack never mind them vids lol , they treat there dogs like a human, thats what your dealing with today , mind you i have little laugh to me self when Buck walks up to them , with there little human on a lead , i stop him though 4-5 ft from them , i carnt be arsed to talk to them no more , and tell them the dog friendly .! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Nature can appear very 'cruel' at times. Maybe if our society wasn't raised on the type of nature documentaries we all know and love, but where death and killing is completely sanitised, then people would better understand that most forms of hunting are actually extremely clinical & compassionate when compared with 'real life'. More guts please Sir David I wonder why the wild dog didn't kill it first. I know, that long before the ban, my own lurchers, having tripped larger game, always went straight to the throat to suffocate the animal. Or is it the case, in pack animals like African Wild Dogs, where they are used to being on a kill in large numbers, it is important to get quickly into the softer underbelly to claim their share. Late to the feast, through being on the throat, means the easy to get at meat has gone. Forget trying to kill it, it will die soon enough anyway through shock and blood loss. Just wondering. For the very same reason a Great White just takes a serious bite and then waits for it's quarry to die.Why would the Hunting Dogs risk injury from those horns when death is inevitable. Our domestic hunting dogs on the other hand have been bred by ourselves to put self preservation behind the need to catch and kill. Those dogs we breed who mind themselves too much we tend to call culls. I was under the impression that these type of predators just want to get in and feed before they lose their meal whether their prey still has a pulse i dont think is particularly important the competition with each other is such that speed of filling their belly takes precedent over everything else.....thats my understanding anyway. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Nature can appear very 'cruel' at times. Maybe if our society wasn't raised on the type of nature documentaries we all know and love, but where death and killing is completely sanitised, then people would better understand that most forms of hunting are actually extremely clinical & compassionate when compared with 'real life'. More guts please Sir David I wonder why the wild dog didn't kill it first. I know, that long before the ban, my own lurchers, having tripped larger game, always went straight to the throat to suffocate the animal. Or is it the case, in pack animals like African Wild Dogs, where they are used to being on a kill in large numbers, it is important to get quickly into the softer underbelly to claim their share. Late to the feast, through being on the throat, means the easy to get at meat has gone. Forget trying to kill it, it will die soon enough anyway through shock and blood loss. Just wondering.For the very same reason a Great White just takes a serious bite and then waits for it's quarry to die.Why would the Hunting Dogs risk injury from those horns when death is inevitable. Our domestic hunting dogs on the other hand have been bred by ourselves to put self preservation behind the need to catch and kill. Those dogs we breed who mind themselves too much we tend to call culls. I was under the impression that these type of predators just want to get in and feed before they lose their meal whether their prey still has a pulse i dont think is particularly important the competition with each other is such that speed of filling their belly takes precedent over everything else.....thats my understanding anyway. True, but a lot of predator groups have a pecking order so alive or dead the usual ones still eat first. Although loosing your kill to other predators is a big risk so it's open to debate why they didn't finish it off. The most brutal kill I seen on a video was a cape buffalo stuck in mud and a pride of lions started eating his hindquarters while he was still standing. It took 4 hours for the buffalo to die and the lions had eaten him to the bone but none of them had gone near the front end to kill him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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