David Aiken 253 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 I've used many Hawke Panorama scope on .17 HMR, .22lr and my HW100. All great scopes, recently i put a £20 SMK 3-9x40 on the HW100 and it is fine. Clear as I need and keep its zero. Quote Link to post
hoggysreels 76 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Got hold of an MTC Viper 3-12×44 (SCB) .. seems a half decent scope. Bought in anticipation of doing a bit of HFT .. shooting the Loughborough venue of the DMHF 2/6 ... I've a Simmons scope hanging around the place. Glass is better at distance than the Hawke Panorama I've got. I just never got on with the plain cross hair reticle ... I only keep hold of it cause its not worth much. Quote Link to post
Rez 4,957 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Got hold of an MTC Viper 3-12×44 (SCB) .. seems a half decent scope. Bought in anticipation of doing a bit of HFT .. shooting the Loughborough venue of the DMHF 2/6 ... I've a Simmons scope hanging around the place. Glass is better at distance than the Hawke Panorama I've got. I just never got on with the plain cross hair reticle ... I only keep hold of it cause its not worth much. What's Simmons optic you got hoggy? Out of interest of course Quote Link to post
hoggysreels 76 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 A Simmons Deerfield 3-9×50 Optically fine .. If l look at some trees from my bedroom window 150 yards away, the image and detail of the leaves through the Simmons is better than through the Hawke Panorama I've got on my Tx200. I got it secondhand. They weren't an expensive scope new. Just the glass is very good for that type of scope. I just wasn't keen on the reticle. Its got plenty of battle scars on it, but optically its fine. I only kept hold of it thinking if I were to sell on a rifle I'd put it on the rifle as a freebie to help sell the rifle .. Things is l seldom sell my rifles lol .. I seldom sell anything, just seem to buy stuff .. :-) 2 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,957 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 A Simmons Deerfield 3-9×50 Optically fine .. If l look at some trees from my bedroom window 150 yards away, the image and detail of the leaves through the Simmons is better than through the Hawke Panorama I've got on my Tx200. I got it secondhand. They weren't an expensive scope new. Just the glass is very good for that type of scope. I just wasn't keen on the reticle. Its got plenty of battle scars on it, but optically its fine. I only kept hold of it thinking if I were to sell on a rifle I'd put it on the rifle as a freebie to help sell the rifle .. Things is l seldom sell my rifles lol .. I seldom sell anything, just seem to buy stuff .. :-) Ahhhh. Would love a white tail classic of the sorts. 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 4,928 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) There was a BSA scope on the Ultra I just bought which IMO was not good by any means so took into the RFD to see what he had and sat on the counter was a s/h Nikko Mountmaster AO, a quick chat and a straight swap. Now I hear a lot of bad reports about this scope and have to say that it is nothing more than a stop gap until I have decided what to do with the rifles........................it is not bad at all, okay the outer edge definition of the lens is soft compared to my Hawke Varmint and MTC Genesis but quite usable and the cross hair is not too thick either so I might even keep it and put it on my TX for plinking. Just looking through the scope in the garden, it is way better than the BSA and the AO seems to work fine although I prefer side focus, for what these scopes cost, I think they represent decent value for what is really a budget scope but it is too early to say if it keeps zero okay, no doubt I will find out in due course. On the hunt for an MTC Mamba lite however after looking at the Genesis lite which I really don't like after seeing what is needed to change parallax. Phil Edited October 16, 2016 by philpot Quote Link to post
philpot 4,928 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 No longer looking for a Mamba Lite...................................just bought one on ebay Yeeeehaaa Phil Quote Link to post
hoggysreels 76 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) I quite like the MTC Viper 3-12×44 IRS .. Also find the MTC Viper Connect 3-12×32 a great scope for daytime hunting and I've heard good for HFT. I was going to use my Airtech tuned Ultra for HFT with the MTC Viper Connect 3-12×32 .. problem is l bought the dedicated Viper Connect mount for the scope. Now it fits fine on my HW100 KT (11mm Dovetail) but the BSA Ultra has the (13mm Dovetail) so l don't think it will fit. And I'm not aware there actually is a 13mm dovetail, dedicated mount, for the MTC Viper Connect. The Viper 3-12×44 is a nice scope so settled on using that mounted on the KT for HFT. Edited October 16, 2016 by hoggysreels 1 Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,340 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 No longer looking for a Mamba Lite...................................just bought one on ebay Yeeeehaaa Phil I'm out of likes for today but, well done mate - hope it's everything you expect :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,549 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Phil here`s the Mamba lite on a T Rex using the JSB Eact Express .177 cal`. Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,549 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 No longer looking for a Mamba Lite...................................just bought one on ebay Yeeeehaaa Phil One great purchase mate,- enjoy ! 1 Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,340 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Phil here`s the Mamba lite on a T Rex using the JSB Eact Express .177 cal`. IMG_0255.JPG See what you've gone and done now Phil - it's the pigeon drawing again 2 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,957 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I quite like the MTC Viper 3-12×44 IRS .. Also find the MTC Viper Connect 3-12×32 a great scope for daytime hunting and I've heard good for HFT. I was going to use my Airtech tuned Ultra for HFT with the MTC Viper Connect 3-12×32 .. problem is l bought the dedicated Viper Connect mount for the scope. Now it fits fine on my HW100 KT (11mm Dovetail) but the BSA Ultra has the (13mm Dovetail) so l don't think it will fit. And I'm not aware there actually is a 13mm dovetail, dedicated mount, for the MTC Viper Connect. The Viper 3-12×44 is a nice scope so settled on using that mounted on the KT for HFT. Is that my old girl? keep me updated on her on goings please... All the best me old. Quote Link to post
philpot 4,928 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 To be honest, I wanted a Viper Connect but no good for NV add-on and this is lighter, if it anywhere near as good as my Genesis, it will be spot on and just about right for the Ultra..............................or perhaps the Wildcat, when I get one. Phil Quote Link to post
tatsblisters 7,953 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Exscuse my ignorance but don't they make the simmons white tailed classics any more as I have one on an old WH that's been in a cubby hole for the last 15 years Quote Link to post
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