Favored Line Of Border Collies For Lurcher Crosses?

[Chicken_man 1,651]

 

 

 

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Wish I could have a pup off this lad,hill type, great nose, driven,good temperament and great with kids.

Also a great watch dog

Atb

He looks quiet a heavy built sort of a lad chicken man. Where did you get him from?

 

A fell farmer i know well has a very nice line of fell curs they arent far looks wise from what a collie x looks like they are incredibly leggy dogs there not much shorter than my lurcher whose 25tts. For all i know there could be some sort of outcross way back but he would never let on if there was.

Bred him myself mate. Had both parents, which both worked.

His father would put a bull up a tree ?

Sadly missed are both.

The mother was a lovely mover, very flowing if you know what I mean, good on sheep, Father was a pure cattle dog,from very early on,strong dog, good head.

Cheers

ive never worked my dogs with cattle because we just use the quad bike to move them and to be honest my cows go mental when they see a dog in the feild and i would be out of a job if my dogs got kicked and put out of commision by a cow so never bothered to do it, saying that though my kelpie was out one day when we were among thw cows and one broke off so amongst the excitement he set off after it and took a kick to the head and when flying. I thought he was done but he jumped straight back up again and carried on. There tough little fuckers them kelpies.

Dogs never got kicked once, we had a few cow dogs and cattle never hung around when they were on the job, didn't seem to have any fear. We didn't attempt to move cattle with very young calves, but definitely older suckled cattle.

We had a couple dogs for sheep only, cow dogs too rough for them.

I hated working beasts, they were mental

Atb

[Blackdog92 2,047]

 

 

 

 

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Wish I could have a pup off this lad,hill type, great nose, driven,good temperament and great with kids.

Also a great watch dog

Atb

He looks quiet a heavy built sort of a lad chicken man. Where did you get him from?

 

A fell farmer i know well has a very nice line of fell curs they arent far looks wise from what a collie x looks like they are incredibly leggy dogs there not much shorter than my lurcher whose 25tts. For all i know there could be some sort of outcross way back but he would never let on if there was.

Bred him myself mate. Had both parents, which both worked.

His father would put a bull up a tree ?

Sadly missed are both.

The mother was a lovely mover, very flowing if you know what I mean, good on sheep, Father was a pure cattle dog,from very early on,strong dog, good head.

Cheers

ive never worked my dogs with cattle because we just use the quad bike to move them and to be honest my cows go mental when they see a dog in the feild and i would be out of a job if my dogs got kicked and put out of commision by a cow so never bothered to do it, saying that though my kelpie was out one day when we were among thw cows and one broke off so amongst the excitement he set off after it and took a kick to the head and when flying. I thought he was done but he jumped straight back up again and carried on. There tough little fuckers them kelpies.

Dogs never got kicked once, we had a few cow dogs and cattle never hung around when they were on the job, didn't seem to have any fear. We didn't attempt to move cattle with very young calves, but definitely older suckled cattle.

We had a couple dogs for sheep only, cow dogs too rough for them.

I hated working beasts, they were mental

Atb

Were they dairy cows or sucklers? My grandad always said never use a good sheepdog around cows because you will ruin it. It will be the same reason you say it makes them to rough.

[Chicken_man 1,651]

 

 

 

 

 

FB_IMG_1468837162487.jpg

 

FB_IMG_1468837169521.jpg

 

Wish I could have a pup off this lad,hill type, great nose, driven,good temperament and great with kids.

Also a great watch dog

Atb

He looks quiet a heavy built sort of a lad chicken man. Where did you get him from?

 

A fell farmer i know well has a very nice line of fell curs they arent far looks wise from what a collie x looks like they are incredibly leggy dogs there not much shorter than my lurcher whose 25tts. For all i know there could be some sort of outcross way back but he would never let on if there was.

Bred him myself mate. Had both parents, which both worked.

His father would put a bull up a tree ?

Sadly missed are both.

The mother was a lovely mover, very flowing if you know what I mean, good on sheep, Father was a pure cattle dog,from very early on,strong dog, good head.

Cheers

ive never worked my dogs with cattle because we just use the quad bike to move them and to be honest my cows go mental when they see a dog in the feild and i would be out of a job if my dogs got kicked and put out of commision by a cow so never bothered to do it, saying that though my kelpie was out one day when we were among thw cows and one broke off so amongst the excitement he set off after it and took a kick to the head and when flying. I thought he was done but he jumped straight back up again and carried on. There tough little fuckers them kelpies.

Dogs never got kicked once, we had a few cow dogs and cattle never hung around when they were on the job, didn't seem to have any fear. We didn't attempt to move cattle with very young calves, but definitely older suckled cattle.

We had a couple dogs for sheep only, cow dogs too rough for them.

I hated working beasts, they were mental

Atb

Were they dairy cows or sucklers? My grandad always said never use a good sheepdog around cows because you will ruin it. It will be the same reason you say it makes them to rough.

Suckler cattle and your grandfather was right, so we had just cow dogs and sheepdogs.

[Chicken_man 1,651]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wish I could have a pup off this lad,hill type, great nose, driven,good temperament and great with kids.

Also a great watch dog

Atb

He looks quiet a heavy built sort of a lad chicken man. Where did you get him from?

A fell farmer i know well has a very nice line of fell curs they arent far looks wise from what a collie x looks like they are incredibly leggy dogs there not much shorter than my lurcher whose 25tts. For all i know there could be some sort of outcross way back but he would never let on if there was.

Bred him myself mate. Had both parents, which both worked.

His father would put a bull up a tree ?

Sadly missed are both.

The mother was a lovely mover, very flowing if you know what I mean, good on sheep, Father was a pure cattle dog,from very early on,strong dog, good head.

Cheers

ive never worked my dogs with cattle because we just use the quad bike to move them and to be honest my cows go mental when they see a dog in the feild and i would be out of a job if my dogs got kicked and put out of commision by a cow so never bothered to do it, saying that though my kelpie was out one day when we were among thw cows and one broke off so amongst the excitement he set off after it and took a kick to the head and when flying. I thought he was done but he jumped straight back up again and carried on. There tough little fuckers them kelpies.

Dogs never got kicked once, we had a few cow dogs and cattle never hung around when they were on the job, didn't seem to have any fear. We didn't attempt to move cattle with very young calves, but definitely older suckled cattle.

We had a couple dogs for sheep only, cow dogs too rough for them.

I hated working beasts, they were mental

Atb

Were they dairy cows or sucklers? My grandad always said never use a good sheepdog around cows because you will ruin it. It will be the same reason you say it makes them to rough.

Suckler cattle and your grandfather was right, so we had just cow dogs and sheepdogs.

 

My grandfather with his dog Bett, which my mum told me my uncle ruined it for sheep working on cattle.

[breeze 1,378]

Blackdog.... what's the black un in your first picture ?

[dai dogs 1,955]

I would like to know what your favored blood line of Border Collie is and what separates it from others. Please be a specific as you can.

Most Farmers would not know the blood line of the working border Collie dogs they own never mind Lurcher men .

[Bosun11 537]

 

I would like to know what your favored blood line of Border Collie is and what separates it from others. Please be a specific as you can.

Most Farmers would not know the blood line of the working border Collie dogs they own never mind Lurcher men .

 

 

That would be my take on it too Dai.

 

It'd be interesting if someone had a name of a line for the type of collie lurchermen would want.

[Blackdog92 2,047]

Blackdog.... what's the black un in your first picture ?

Thats my lurcher, he always comes to the fell with me when im gathering you never know what might pop up.

[Neal 1,922]

I'd argue that the best cattle dogs (as oppossed to Cattle Dogs) aren't the ones who shout "Get over there now!" but rather the ones who politely inform the cattle, "You don't want to do that; you want to go over there...trust me."

 

I personally feel that herding and dog training and teaching have a lot in common...and we learn better when we're not scared. Just my humble opinion mind.

[jukel123 9,228]

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Wouldn't mind a pup out of one of this line.

[Dan McDonough 560]

I couldn't be happier with the opinions here so far. That's just where I'm heading. I picked up three cattle bred border collies out of Kansas last month. They are hard biting and tough and nails but both seem to have a pile of common sense without the nerviness.

[Marvel 487]

I couldn't be happier with the opinions here so far. That's just where I'm heading. I picked up three cattle bred border collies out of Kansas last month. They are hard biting and tough and nails but both seem to have a pile of common sense without the nerviness.

Get some pictures

[Dan McDonough 560]

These are two of the three. I traded the third to a very good border collie man from Wisconsin for 2nd pick of her litter. I don't have a picture of her on my phone. The two pictures above are from right at the time I got them. They are in much better shape now. Both bite both ends and both are hard biting dogs. Both know their job well but the younger of the two (split faced female) doesn't know all of the whistle commands yet. That doesn't matter a whole lot because I will teach them my own set of whistles as they learn to hunt here. By the end of summer I should have made my choice between the two. As of right now I'm leaning towards the older female as she's got some traights I just can't ignore. One of them being that she trees like a old squirrel dog.

 

They are both panning out well and I'll be breeding one to my stag Duce and the other to an American Leopard Hound of mine for making a fresh batch of bobcat dogs.

[BGD 6,437]

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Wish I could have a pup off this lad,hill type, great nose, driven,good temperament and great with kids.

Also a great watch dog

Atb

I wouldn't hop your gate with that thing coming down the track at me looks a serious mutt

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

 

I would like to know what your favored blood line of Border Collie is and what separates it from others. Please be a specific as you can.

 

Most Farmers would not know the blood line of the working border Collie dogs they own never mind Lurcher men .

havnt got a clue what ours are, just use the best dog in local area.