Labour Leadership Election

[WILF 44,419]

Labour will never solve getting the long term unemployed off the ham role and young people off benefits.......no party will all the time they persue a policy of raping everybody for as much tax as possible (both actual and stealth )

There's just no point in going to work for some folks, your average bloke needs at least 7 or 8 hundred quid a week to just survive what with the cost of housing, motoring etc.......there's just not enough hours in the week to earn that money if your not the brightest in class by the time they take your tax and NI out if it.

You would, I would think, actually end up with more in your pocket on the dole........why spend your life working to pay some other c**t?........almost everyone has the common sense to realise that's a mugs game.

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Labour will never solve getting the long term unemployed off the ham role and young people off benefits.......no party will all the time they persue a policy of raping everybody for as much tax as possible (both actual and stealth )

There's just no point in going to work for some folks, your average bloke needs at least 7 or 8 hundred quid a week to just survive what with the cost of housing, motoring etc.......there's just not enough hours in the week to earn that money if your not the brightest in class by the time they take your tax and NI out if it.

You would, I would think, actually end up with more in your pocket on the dole........why spend your life working to pay some other c**t?........almost everyone has the common sense to realise that's a mugs game.

So you introduce a real living wage and start massive house building projects to bring house prices down Motoring and the costs involved is another issue that needs serious looking at IMO, with the costs of tax MOT and insurance I've seriously no idea how any young ones can afford to get themselves on the road which in turn limits their employment opportunities greatly.

 

No disagreement at all that you need to make work actually pay if you want folk off benefits and putting in graft, just another area we're in agreement on the issues just take different directions looking for the solutions

[scothunter 12,609]

It will be decades before they ever get any power again.

how can you trust any of the political parties.

Just look @ the in fighting and stabbing each other in the backs.

Guess loyality is not something they take seriously.

[twobob 1,458]

 

 

 

This is interesting, so far Corbyn has been nominated by far more constituencies in the North and other traditional working class areas while Smith's support is concentrated in London, exactly the opposite of how it should be according to the narrative of Corbyn only appealing to metropolitan middle class types put out by the press and PLP

thats amazing all that green in yorkshire WOW dont think geography,s your strong point

The constituencies in Yorkshire haven't nominated anyone yet that's why they're not green or pink so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make we'll have to wait and see who they nominate.

 

you said corbyns done well in the north .north of where,????????out of 1.2 million people 3 thousand at best went to watch him,its that old saying tell a lie long enough and people believe

[BGD 6,385]

 

 

 

 

 

This is interesting, so far Corbyn has been nominated by far more constituencies in the North and other traditional working class areas while Smith's support is concentrated in London, exactly the opposite of how it should be according to the narrative of Corbyn only appealing to metropolitan middle class types put out by the press and PLP

thats amazing all that green in yorkshire WOW dont think geography,s your strong point

The constituencies in Yorkshire haven't nominated anyone yet that's why they're not green or pink so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make we'll have to wait and see who they nominate.

you said corbyns done well in the north .north of where,????????out of 1.2 million people 3 thousand at best went to watch him,its that old saying tell a lie long enough and people believe

I didn't realise the North only consisted of Yorkshire

 

He's been nominated in more Northern and traditonally working class constituencies than Smith who's support is centred in London, that's what I said and that's what the map shows

Edited August 3, 2016 by BGD

[twobob 1,458]

 

 

 

 

 

This is interesting, so far Corbyn has been nominated by far more constituencies in the North and other traditional working class areas while Smith's support is concentrated in London, exactly the opposite of how it should be according to the narrative of Corbyn only appealing to metropolitan middle class types put out by the press and PLP

thats amazing all that green in yorkshire WOW dont think geography,s your strong point

The constituencies in Yorkshire haven't nominated anyone yet that's why they're not green or pink so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make we'll have to wait and see who they nominate.

you said corbyns done well in the north .north of where,????????out of 1.2 million people 3 thousand at best went to watch him,its that old saying tell a lie long enough and people believe

I didn't realise the North only consisted of Yorkshire

 

He's been nominated in more Northern and traditonally working class constituencies than Smith who's support is centred in London, that's what I said and that's what the map shows

 

no your right most people consider yorkshire the start of being north,the middlands being middle hence the name and the south sarf but if you you know better please tell

[walshie 2,804]

Bob. I can tell you've never conversed with big Gay Dave before. You'll wish you hadn't started when this is still going on in 3 or 4 days.

[twobob 1,458]

 

 

 

 

 

This is interesting, so far Corbyn has been nominated by far more constituencies in the North and other traditional working class areas while Smith's support is concentrated in London, exactly the opposite of how it should be according to the narrative of Corbyn only appealing to metropolitan middle class types put out by the press and PLP

thats amazing all that green in yorkshire WOW dont think geography,s your strong point

The constituencies in Yorkshire haven't nominated anyone yet that's why they're not green or pink so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make we'll have to wait and see who they nominate.

you said corbyns done well in the north .north of where,????????out of 1.2 million people 3 thousand at best went to watch him,its that old saying tell a lie long enough and people believe

I didn't realise the North only consisted of Yorkshire

 

He's been nominated in more Northern and traditonally working class constituencies than Smith who's support is centred in London, that's what I said and that's what the map shows

 

well look at your map clown not much green and your saying he,s strong in the north,oh i get it no cnut wants him in the sarf lol

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This is interesting, so far Corbyn has been nominated by far more constituencies in the North and other traditional working class areas while Smith's support is concentrated in London, exactly the opposite of how it should be according to the narrative of Corbyn only appealing to metropolitan middle class types put out by the press and PLP

thats amazing all that green in yorkshire WOW dont think geography,s your strong point

The constituencies in Yorkshire haven't nominated anyone yet that's why they're not green or pink so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make we'll have to wait and see who they nominate.

you said corbyns done well in the north .north of where,????????out of 1.2 million people 3 thousand at best went to watch him,its that old saying tell a lie long enough and people believe

I didn't realise the North only consisted of Yorkshire

 

He's been nominated in more Northern and traditonally working class constituencies than Smith who's support is centred in London, that's what I said and that's what the map shows

well look at your map clown not much green and your saying he,s strong in the north,oh i get it no cnut wants him in the sarf lol

More green than pink though isn't there? So I'd be right saying he's doing better than Smith in the North, no?

 

And since I posted that map he's been nominated in even more Northern constituencies with plenty left to nominate

[twobob 1,458]

Bob. I can tell you've never conversed with big Gay Dave before. You'll wish you hadn't started when this is still going on in 3 or 4 days.

 

Bob. I can tell you've never conversed with big Gay Dave before. You'll wish you hadn't started when this is still going on in 3 or 4 days.

no walshie he,s a flucking clown,he knows what jezza takes for his snap but cant say for sure he,s never taken advantage of the subsidised bars

[BGD 6,385]

Why would he take advantage of the subsidised bars, he's basically teetotal

[Tiercel 6,986]

The last people who I want to see in power would be a socialist government. That said, the best opposition for any other party would be the socialists. To be fair there is not much choice between the rest, new labour = back door Tories. Ukip the same, and the Tories are well the Tories and do not pretend to be anything else.

 

A strong social opposition can keep any of the far right in check, keep things on a more level playing field, where some others in society get a chance of bettering themselves, or not being penalised for being poor.

 

As always just my opinion.

 

TC

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The last people who I want to see in power would be a socialist government. That said, the best opposition for any other party would be the socialists. To be fair there is not much choice between the rest, new labour = back door Tories. Ukip the same, and the Tories are well the Tories and do not pretend to be anything else.

 

A strong social opposition can keep any of the far right in check, keep things on a more level playing field, where some others in society get a chance of bettering themselves, or not being penalised for being poor.

 

As always just my opinion.

 

TC

Good post pal

 

At the end of the day having an opposition that actually opposes the Government's policy and offers real alternatives is good for our democracy even if you wouldn't necessarily want to see them in power. Widening the debate in parliament can only be a good thing IMO wherever on the political spectrum you are.

[twobob 1,458]

Bob. I can tell you've never conversed with big Gay Dave before. You'll wish you hadn't started when this is still going on in 3 or 4 days.

unfortunatky i live in the real world walshie

[twobob 1,458]

Why would he take advantage of the subsidised bars, he's basically teetotal

that word basically , is he or isnt he ??