jukel123 6,906 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) So we decided to exit the EU. Or at least much of England did. I note that the Leave campaigners have dropped their promise to spend £350 million a week on the NHS. They are also saying they won't put a cap on EU migrants. 'It was never about immigration' they say. Boris has been sacked for lying twice. Iain Duncam Smith , Boris Johnston and Michael Gove have all stated the NHS should be privatised. So we are all going to be poorer, the NHs will continue to be underfunded and possibly privatised ( the french and germans spend about 12% of GDP on healthcare-we are projected to spend around 8%) immigration will continue as before. So we've all been shafted, but at least we are 'free'. When do I get that freedom feeling? Anytime soon? Edited June 29, 2016 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 i dont get why people keep saying leave promised xyz, the people who ran leave dont yet have the authority to do anthing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,420 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have you tried punching a Pole? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,906 Posted June 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have you tried punching a Pole? No BGD, I have no issue with immigration. It's lying tories that give me the hump. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have you tried punching a Pole? My neighbours ask me when I was leaving yesterday....haha 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,698 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 It's still early days yet and we haven't even started negotiations but I hear you... I really don't think that the UK public are going swallow " we can't do anything about free movement " or at least I hope not. Being from the east Midlands the migration problem is one if not main priorities I can't see how they can ignore it. I think it still hasn't sunken in with the politicians yet that this isn't about economy it's about democracy sovereignty and liberty for most people. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,656 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 The Leave campaign were in no position to make promises and as a result did not. They were essentially a pressure group fighting for opportunity. There was not manifesto and so no promises. They did not represent the government so how could they make promises? The Leave campaign ARE NOT the Government, so what does it matter what their politics are? If you don't want them governing you then exercise your democratic right! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Freedom =/= high taxes and a large government. No matter what the upside. We're not even free of the EU yet,there's a long way to go,the momentum has shifted away from globalism and internationalism,but you can't expect it to all change overnight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,420 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have you tried punching a Pole? No BGD, I have no issue with immigration. It's lying tories that give me the hump. No seriously I think a lot of folk are starting to feel the same as you pal and if the Tories do what I think they're planning either not leaving at all or giving so much away in negotiations that we're still in the EU in all but name then there's going to be real anger and I'd worry about what could happen as a result. You tell a big chunk of the population that the ballotbox doesn't work and they start looking at different ways to get their point across... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 21,289 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Either way it's positive.....either we do control immigration or if they shafts us than anger and momentum will continue to build for real change....a rocky Road ahead but hopefully we are slowly changing direction......that change can only really come from the voting public not the same incompetent traitors that were in power before the vote and are still in power now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have you tried punching a Pole? My neighbours ask me when I was leaving yesterday....haha My neighbours ask me that all the time 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,420 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Have you tried punching a Pole? My neighbours ask me when I was leaving yesterday....haha My neighbours ask me that all the time I bet they fecking do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 i dont get why people keep saying leave promised xyz, the people who ran leave dont yet have the authority to do anthing Its just all part of the game....like that clueless bitch asking Farage about spending the money on the NHS The bus picture they keep pulling out doesn't say they are going to spend the money on the NHS The leave campaign said if we leave its up to us here in the UK where those hundreds of millions could be spent and its upto us how many migrants are allowed in But as usual things get twisted 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 24,206 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 David Lammy mp for tottenham said this vote was only an "advisory" vote and is going to campaign for another referendum because 2/3's of his constituants voted to remain in the EU,he said the referendum was mob rule,i think his family uoriginated from west africa so he obviously cant quite grasp the concept of a democracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 i dont get why people keep saying leave promised xyz, the people who ran leave dont yet have the authority to do anthingIts just all part of the game....like that clueless bitch asking Farage about spending the money on the NHS The bus picture they keep pulling out doesn't say they are going to spend the money on the NHS The leave campaign said if we leave its up to us here in the UK where those hundreds of millions could be spent and its upto us how many migrants are allowed in But as usual things get twisted Well that's exactly how I interpreted what Farage and co were saying. The 350m would be spent on a variety of stuff in the Uk. I didn't hear once that it would 'all' be spent on the NHS. Nor would I want it too. As for going back on certain aspects of things. The main issue was immigration, and if they do not 100% set up some form of policy that dictates who and when people can come here then I hope the backlash is in proportions we have never seen people. Because there is telling a few white lies to benefit your cause in government and then there is blatant lies that cannot be excused. Certainly not when the British people have voted in huge numbers to have there say. So they better get there f***ing fingers out!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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