downsouth 8,333 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I heard that fellas that kept bull breeds for fighting wouldnt jab them for parvo as they said it weakings themYea that's the jab Peter parvo I should of said in the first post.interesting how the it effects dogs.if the the fighting lads have noticed it and a top greyhound trainer has also seen it.Greyhounds can't run on the track without all there vaccinations being up to date.I don't suppose getting hold of a vets book and putting some jab labels off a vial would be hard work DS.loads of fraud goes on.im just saying what the woman said that's all but it makes you think if top trainers mention it.Not as easy as that.Ear tattoos micro chips vaccination records and registration papers all have to match up.Its a completely different thing than owning a pet dog. 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 A lad I know has just gifted away a decent coursing bitch because he jabbed her to bring her out of season last year and she's never ran the same since. Hormones effect women in strange ways as we all know, lol. I dont understand what you mean by take her out of season. Do you mean he gave her a suppressant to stop her coming in? Yes hormone injection to stop her coming in season. Similar to the jab women can have, or the pill or implant. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 The lady that King is talking about has been dead for a few years now so I presume her book is quiet old ,so I wouldn't worry about any top trainers going around the tracks spreading distemper with their sick (but very fast) dogs. Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 So if a greyhound trainer told her that feeding your dog carrot tops will make it go around a second faster would she put that in a book ... And would you believe it ... The greyhound trainer could be a complete idiot as far as we know who by the sounds of it was talking out of his Arse ... If there is no concrete evidence then it's not for me ......... 1 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,907 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 So if a greyhound trainer told her that feeding your dog carrot tops will make it go around a second faster would she put that in a book ... And would you believe it ... The greyhound trainer could be a complete idiot as far as we know who by the sounds of it was talking out of his Arse ... If there is no concrete evidence then it's not for me ......... i was told carrots are good for night vision 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 48,375 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Not jabbing a dog for parvo is lunisy imo,rather it not be so quick than watch it die from parvo or worse still recover and be a f***ing cripple,with all the slippery c**ts importing dogs from Europe with false paper work you got to be a fool not to vacinate against things IMHO, iv'e known lads get cheap jabs,and every pup in litter has died from parvo,plenty of dirty fuckers out there keeping dogs in fitly conditions and jabs not in the fridge,if you to tight to pay 30 quid then you should go get a hamster lol.atb dc DC,I think that depends on where you live and how you keep your dogs, all the lads that I've seen with parvo in their kennels have also been knee deep in sh*te and even after burning and replacing everything they've still had it back years later even after the jabs, look at Plummer he was a scruffy dirty bast**d,lost whole litters and adult dogs to it, I know lads in North Wales that kept kennels that were always sh*t high and it ravaged them, same in Crewe,the list is endless, keep clean kennels and feed the best and you will have the best out your dogs, mine live in these days and they are only ever jabbed as a pup,never lost a dog to disease in 45yrs, damp,dirty kennels promote disease,simple as that in my eyes, WMfor once Mr plummer I agree,lol,I was always told that parvo can lay dormant for years... mate has an allotment/yard where he kennels his dogs,always jabs them when the time comes,but every few years he has lost pups to parvo/distemper,burned everything,soaked the ground in battles black etc it always returns,he's lost whole litters of terriers,lurchers and bulldogs,and his yards clean.I'm of the thinking that if you can't pick up your dog's shit everyday and feed them then don't keep them,simples But you know aswel as me that some folk will keep their dogs in the filthiest shit and when you go to buy a dog they keep you in front garden or house and say wait here I go get them?I've seen it so many times and people still go back there,madness,in this day and age you got to be thick as f**k to cut corners save a few bob and not protect your dogs.I wouldn't let a ferret,game bird f**k all have to live walking through its own shit,you can tell alot about someone the way they treat their ferrets imo and they won't get a dog from me if they can't even keep a f***ing hutch clean.atb dc 6 Quote Link to post
tote 857 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 A lad I know has just gifted away a decent coursing bitch because he jabbed her to bring her out of season last year and she's never ran the same since. Hormones effect women in strange ways as we all know, lol. I dont understand what you mean by take her out of season. Do you mean he gave her a suppressant to stop her coming in? Yes hormone injection to stop her coming in season. Similar to the jab women can have, or the pill or implant. Gaz in your first post you say the bitch was jabbed to bring her out of season, yet in your reply you say it was to stop her coming into season, which was it? Once a bitch has started her season it is too late to try and suppress it, best leave her to get on with it. If she wasn't in season do you know what he jabbed her with? If it was Delvosteron I'm not surprised it put the bitch back, used it once years ago on a greyhound and she ran poorly for 5-6 months and know of others that have had the same issues. Have used plenty other suppressants since then and never had problems with them. Quote Link to post
tote 857 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I was reading an old book I've got last night. The author said she asked a top greyhound trainer about jabbing greyhounds and he said he doesent as it makes greyhounds slower.and kennels he knows who do jab have never had a fast dog. Anyone else heard of that. Was told years ago not to believe everything I read, I would say in this case it would've been good advice for you to have been given. Quote Link to post
king 12,024 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I was reading an old book I've got last night. The author said she asked a top greyhound trainer about jabbing greyhounds and he said he doesent as it makes greyhounds slower.and kennels he knows who do jab have never had a fast dog. Anyone else heard of that. Was told years ago not to believe everything I read, I would say in this case itwould've been good advice for you to have been given. Have you heard of greyhound trainers talking about it in the past tote. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 A lad I know has just gifted away a decent coursing bitch because he jabbed her to bring her out of season last year and she's never ran the same since. Hormones effect women in strange ways as we all know, lol. I dont understand what you mean by take her out of season. Do you mean he gave her a suppressant to stop her coming in?Yes hormone injection to stop her coming in season. Similar to the jab women can have, or the pill or implant.Gaz in your first post you say the bitch was jabbed to bring her out of season, yet in your reply you say it was to stop her coming into season, which was it? Once a bitch has started her season it is too late to try and suppress it, best leave her to get on with it. If she wasn't in season do you know what he jabbed her with? If it was Delvosteron I'm not surprised it put the bitch back, used it once years ago on a greyhound and she ran poorly for 5-6 months and know of others that have had the same issues. Have used plenty other suppressants since then and never had problems with them. I aren't entirely sure. I heard it off a mate of a mate. I know he recently gave away a very good bitch because he jabbed her with something to prevent her having her seasons and she never ran the same since. I haven't got all the info. But I know it was a good bitch and I know the lad isn't an idiot. So maybe some truth in the jabs knocking them about. Turns out the thread is about parvo jabs not hormone jabs anyway. So my mistake ?? Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Yes you can get diseases in clean yards,just as you can walking them where unjabbed dogs have been ,but the point is, If everyone jabbed up ,eventually the diseases may well die out. It can be spread on your shoes, by animals walking across your yard, Small price to pay for 1/2 second round a track Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 They are jabbed to stop them coming into season. It does not effect there running ability in the long term. 2 Quote Link to post
Raymond 618 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I paid 60 euro for a mongrel and shes all jabbed up correctly so she doesnt get any unwanted diseases out the fields. Now I seen a clip of a greyhound racing programme a couple of years ago.1 lad reconed he paid 40,000pounds for his dog.How true that is I dont know. I wouldnt think owners of very valuable dogs wouldnt jab them up against potentially lethal diseases that could kill ther valuable dogs.If I do it for a 60 euro dog cant see anyone not doing it for a dog worth thousands. Quote Link to post
mushroom 14,021 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just put up with her in season mate no different to ya Mrs for a week. 1 Quote Link to post
Raymond 618 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Not jabbing a dog for parvo is lunisy imo,rather it not be so quick than watch it die from parvo or worse still recover and be a f***ing cripple,with all the slippery c**ts importing dogs from Europe with false paper work you got to be a fool not to vacinate against things IMHO, iv'e known lads get cheap jabs,and every pup in litter has died from parvo,plenty of dirty fuckers out there keeping dogs in fitly conditions and jabs not in the fridge,if you to tight to pay 30 quid then you should go get a hamster lol.atb dcDC,I think that depends on where you live and how you keep your dogs, all the lads that I've seen with parvo in their kennels have also been knee deep in sh*te and even after burning and replacing everything they've still had it back years later even after the jabs, look at Plummer he was a scruffy dirty bast**d,lost whole litters and adult dogs to it, I know lads in North Wales that kept kennels that were always sh*t high and it ravaged them, same in Crewe,the list is endless, keep clean kennels and feed the best and you will have the best out your dogs, mine live in these days and they are only ever jabbed as a pup,never lost a dog to disease in 45yrs, damp,dirty kennels promote disease,simple as that in my eyes, WMfor once Mr plummer I agree,lol,I was always told that parvo can lay dormant for years... mate has an allotment/yard where he kennels his dogs,always jabs them when the time comes,but every few years he has lost pups to parvo/distemper,burned everything,soaked the ground in battles black etc it always returns,he's lost whole litters of terriers,lurchers and bulldogs,and his yards clean.I'm of the thinking that if you can't pick up your dog's shit everyday and feed them then don't keep them,simples But you know aswel as me that some folk will keep their dogs in the filthiest shit and when you go to buy a dog they keep you in front garden or house and say wait here I go get them?I've seen it so many times and people still go back there,madness,in this day and age you got to be thick as f**k to cut corners save a few bob and not protect your dogs.I wouldn't let a ferret,game bird f**k all have to live walking through its own shit,you can tell alot about someone the way they treat their ferrets imo and they won't get a dog from me if they can't even keep a f***ing hutch clean.atb dc Probably an old wives tail, but years ago an old lad told me if your breeding your bitch and you roughly know when shes due in season try get her a booster jad within a couple of months before mateing her. This fella recogned it uped the bitches imunity and passed a stronger imunity onto her pups. Probably worth a shot in your mates case of loseing pups. Might work or might not. It will only cost the price of a booster 1 Quote Link to post
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