nans pat 2,575 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 seen some of these t.shirt muscle men doing the doors here lol,some people just have natural strength ,what i mean do people bulk out just to pose sure you cant put mussles on yer chin, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,663 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 seen some of these t.shirt muscle men doing the doors here lol,some people just have natural strength ,what i mean do people bulk out just to pose sure you cant put mussles on yer chin, Its a known fact that gym memberships soar in the months of April/May/June..............you work it out 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 24,876 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 The only trouble with a full body routine is involves lots of deadlifting, I daren't do that exercise with any serious weight in case it puts my back out again. Surely there's no point in doing a full body routine if I'm missing out one of the most important exercises? Replace deadlifts with squats then.......its just a case of simple mechanics.....you are a beginner....with training/diet/rest being good you are going to see massive growth in size and strength over the coming months,moreso than at any other time thats just how it works for beginners your body isnt used to the stress........this is a stage where less is more you dont want to waste the big gains you make on small muscle groups like triceps and biceps you want to build a base that you can then build a body on. Unless of course you just want some flashy little t shirt muscles for the summer in which case yes just pre exhaust your arms and chest every other day and you,ll be walking around semi pumped all the time Nothing wrong with a semi....................... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,663 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Nothing wrong with a semi....................... Its all or nothing for me Tomo............mostly nothing ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fifeman 164 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Gnasher what is your thoughts on calisthenics ? Seems to be very popular these days, cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Everything Gnasher has said is sound, solid advice. Are you a personal trainer or summat like that? You obviously know your shit Edited June 10, 2015 by Hydropotesinermis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,663 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Gnasher what is your thoughts on calisthenics ? Seems to be very popular these days, cheers. Im all for it Fifeman....to a point.....i think it builds good core strength,good tendon and ligament strength as you resist weight at very natural angles......but my belief is you start to limit yourself the stronger you get.....push ups for example......when you do a push up you are only lifting 65% of your bodyweight,so as you get stronger that isnt sufficient weight to promote growth......you could add a sandbag or two but then thats " weight training " you might just as well turn over and press a barbell......so calisthenics fans tend to change the angle of the lift to make it harder but when doing that they change that natural angle that gives good core strength in the first place. My opinion is like most of these things it has its place but isnt something to be relied on all of the time. Everything Gnasher has said is sound, solid advice. Are you a personal trainer or summat like that? You obviously know your shit No im a gym owner mate most of them pretty little bookworm personal trainers aggravate me .....like most folk i just learn from experience. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 seen some of these t.shirt muscle men doing the doors here lol,some people just have natural strength ,what i mean do people bulk out just to pose sure you cant put mussles on yer chin, Its a known fact that gym memberships soar in the months of April/May/June..............you work it out In the late eighties/early nineties it was a running joke in our gym,if a Stallone or Schwarzeneger flick was on tv over the weekend it was a kncking bet the gym would be rammed Monday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 1 armed press ups,all different types of pull ups and pistols are all good exercises. if you don't want to change the angle but add resistance get a weighted vest or belt you can hang weight off. very few people can do all 3 of the above exercises without even adding any weight,and i've never even heard of anyone getting an injury doing them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,663 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 1 armed press ups,all different types of pull ups and pistols are all good exercises. if you don't want to change the angle but add resistance get a weighted vest or belt you can hang weight off. very few people can do all 3 of the above exercises without even adding any weight,and i've never even heard of anyone getting an injury doing them. Not taking the piss mate but how much weight do you think you would need to add to hit your max on a basic push up ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Seriously no bullshit now, is it possible to get mass aswell as being ripped doing it all natural at my tender age of 30. I've left it a bit late in life to start training but better late than never, I see kids in the gym who are juicing and admit they look well but is it attainable through diet and the odd blast of creatine? Edited June 10, 2015 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyg1086 52 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Seriously no bullshit now, is it possible to get mass aswell as being ripped doing it all natural at my tender age of 30. I've left it a bit late in life to start training but better late than never, I see kids in the gym who are juicing and admit they look well but is it attainable through diet and the odd blast of creatine? I think you would be suprised at the change you can make to your body naturally. Not only that but you are making yourself healthier and excercise is proven to help your mood. They tell people with depression for example to try excercising more. Just eat lots of good food and do the heavy compound movements 3 times a week 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 1 armed press ups,all different types of pull ups and pistols are all good exercises. if you don't want to change the angle but add resistance get a weighted vest or belt you can hang weight off. very few people can do all 3 of the above exercises without even adding any weight,and i've never even heard of anyone getting an injury doing them. Not taking the piss mate but how much weight do you think you would need to add to hit your max on a basic push up ? no idea,if i said a figure would be a complete guess,i put on a 30 pound vest circuit training which involves a fair few press ups. But a 1 armed press up with strict form,at the moment about 10 pound,if i done them like rocky balboa feck knows probably about 50 but with strict form it's a very difficult exercise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,362 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Seriously no bullshit now, is it possible to get mass aswell as being ripped doing it all natural at my tender age of 30. I've left it a bit late in life to start training but better late than never, I see kids in the gym who are juicing and admit they look well but is it attainable through diet and the odd blast of creatine? Dogfox I've recently started the weights, two months ago, I'm also thirty, I done martials, but this is my first time lifting proper weights, I could not budge from ten an half stone from I was a teenager, now I've put on three quarter of a stone in two months, never felt better, no protein shakes or creation or supps, just good nutrition, mostly protein an juicing, low carbs, an when I'm carving its the good carbs . You can do it mate just need determination, get pumping pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Fair play gnasher you know your onions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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