Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Joe mate, they just baiting you, leave it as it is and that will wind them up even more than your replies. Fair one, i guess am wasting my time debating with non voters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 What a dilemma for me ...? Vote: no to prevent the Islamification of Scotland .... Vote: yes to help UKIP reverse the Islamification of England ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,428 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Ross i swear I am not trying to rile him. This is completely to do with the buullshit spouted to you guys and him regurgitating it on here like it's gospel when the evidience is all around you. about how it is actually going to be. Politicians rich Scotland fuucked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,645 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 BH, if we are refused from nato( i dont agree ) then we probaly wont get invaded just like ireland and others.. There are also 28 countries in nato, only 3 with nukes. The name i was thinking about was the partnership for peace I don't believe you will get invaded either. You currently have no conflict with another state and no foreseeable reason for one. There's no current reason for you to need a powerful military capable of expeditionary/nuclear/offensive etc action. However, that sort of military is an insurance policy, you never foresee such threats. 3/28 may be nuclear armed but all 28 support that. Why will Scotland get in without showing similar support for the core reason for nato. Furthermore why will Scotland get in after intentionally hampering nato capability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,028 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 GOD SAVE THE QUEEN I'm delighted to stay United Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delswal 3,817 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 BH, if we are refused from nato( i dont agree ) then we probaly wont get invaded just like ireland and others.. There are also 28 countries in nato, only 3 with nukes. The name i was thinking about was the partnership for peace I don't believe you will get invaded either. You currently have no conflict with another state and no foreseeable reason for one. There's no current reason for you to need a powerful military capable of expeditionary/nuclear/offensive etc action. However, that sort of military is an insurance policy, you never foresee such threats. 3/28 may be nuclear armed but all 28 support that. Why will Scotland get in without showing similar support for the core reason for nato. Furthermore why will Scotland get in after intentionally hampering nato capability. Maybe England will invade them and steal their oil, just like we have done in the middle east easy pickings with no defences Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,028 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Is there enough English in England to handle doing that with such a mixed race doubt it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcherman 887 12,723 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 If yes vote better for england then let them go lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,028 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 There's so much English saying don't do it makes you wonder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) BH, if we are refused from nato( i dont agree ) then we probaly wont get invaded just like ireland and others.. There are also 28 countries in nato, only 3 with nukes. The name i was thinking about was the partnership for peace I don't believe you will get invaded either. You currently have no conflict with another state and no foreseeable reason for one. There's no current reason for you to need a powerful military capable of expeditionary/nuclear/offensive etc action. However, that sort of military is an insurance policy, you never foresee such threats. 3/28 may be nuclear armed but all 28 support that. Why will Scotland get in without showing similar support for the core reason for nato. Furthermore why will Scotland get in after intentionally hampering nato capability. i believe when the times comes the 28 members will allow scotlands membership. scotlands position is key at a time were tensions are high with the russians, we are also next door to england and wales, if we were invaded the rest of uk would be at risk, an alliance with the uk and a member of nato will probaly happen, we wont have a massive army but we will still have well trained soldiers and good techology. we can still play a part in nato, just like the other smaller nations, just without trident, and if we are refused, its not the end of the world. Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,461 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 All I care about now is that you don't go and f**k up the strength of the pound for a while, when I'm done ya can all live in tents as far as I am concerned !! Lol lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,428 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Lmao f****n key? no, it's a port there are deeper fjords in norway mate just like you'll get membership of the EU you'll get membership of NATO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,645 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 You don't seem to grasp it Joe, nato is principally a nuclear alliance. All the members support the combined nuclear deterent. Scotland will have taken action that reduces nato nuclear capability. The whole idea flies in the face of what nato is about. You want nato protection but will not offer Britain the capability to maintain its nato responsibilities. You want to intentionally hinder nato capability but still be under their official protection? The only thing you have to offer is your geographical location which I don't see as' key' with the UK, Norway and Iceland being members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Well all said and done it is Scotland's gamble, I doubt it will have a negative effect down here. In fact it will leave Labour struggling to ever get elected again which in my view is very positive. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) You don't seem to grasp it Joe, nato is principally a nuclear alliance. All the members support the combined nuclear deterent. Scotland will have taken action that reduces nato nuclear capability. The whole idea flies in the face of what nato is about. You want nato protection but will not offer Britain the capability to maintain its nato responsibilities. You want to intentionally hinder nato capability but still be under their official protection? The only thing you have to offer is your geographical location which I don't see as' key' with the UK, Norway and Iceland being members. ofcourse i do and i could quote experts saying different i.e most recent a former uk ambassador to the nuclear based defence alliance countrys around scotland might not agree, with cuts, the raf has no martitime patrol aircraft and the navy have no conventional oceon going vessels based in scotland. good to know the oil and waters at well watched, remember when all those russian ships entered scottish waters, 24 hours it took to scramble ships.. not the first time either Edited September 10, 2014 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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