ChrisJones 7,973 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Are religion and spirituality the same thing though? I know the dictionary definiton intertwines the two but surely it must be possible to believe in higher forces without necessarily being confined to a particular religion? Religion, to me, is where man has decided to regiment spirituality. Where he has decided to outline the rules and regulations within. This, at least to me, is where the problem lies. I have no issue with what people believe. What they do, or who they pray to. Providing it's all between consenting adults. I don't believe for a moment that any just God, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, would want war to be waged in their name. I just think it's bullshit. The cornerstone of these prophets is pretty much love thy neighbour, and that anything else added, or subtracted, along the way is the will of no one other than the person writing it down. To those that claim there is no higher power, how do you know? To those that claim we were created in his image, how do you know? I guess I want both sides to show their working out in the margin... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,322 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I agree Chris, you don't have to be in any particular club to be religious/ spiritual Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Never seen this lol some egotistical know it alls on here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Never seen this lol some egotistical know it alls on here! From the member resurrecting a year old thread? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Yeah cause youve popped out of woodwork again with the same old bs, so I checked your content an came across this, seems you enjoyed yourself there, with the rest of the scoffers, nothing new to say, so enjoy yourself chris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 You're right there isn't anything new to say. None of these religions have come up with anything new in centuries. A while back we'd have been crucified for saying this. A few thousand miles east and we will be beheaded for it. Anything that ridiculous is sure worthy of it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Last time chris, your in a religon wheter you realise it or not, atheism, agnostic, whatever you want to call it, your god is yourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 religion rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/ noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. "ideas about the relationship between science and religion" synonyms: faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More a particular system of faith and worship. plural noun: religions "the world's great religions" a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion. "consumerism is the new religion" Read the last two lines, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 religion rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/ noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. "ideas about the relationship between science and religion" synonyms: faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology; More a particular system of faith and worship. plural noun: religions "the world's great religions" a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion. "consumerism is the new religion" Read the last two lines, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm not in a religion. I do not believe, or worship, a supreme deity. Atheism is the absense of theism. I'm agnostic, in the traditional sense. I simply don't know. I am willing to change that belief based on hard evidence, supported by scientific method. I do know that the word written by man is not to be trusted. If you sincerely believe that consumerism is the new religion then how is your faith tested knowing you serve two masters? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Chris your not getting my point, that copyvan paste I donevis from a dictonary, it defines what religon means, read the second last line, your devoted to agnosticism, correct, so its classed as a religon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm not devoted to anything. I simply don't believe... You asked me to clarify my position. I did. It's a pretty simple concept. If I had a religion, in your dictionary defined copy and paste, it would be... truth noun \ˈtrüth\ the truth : the real facts about something : the things that are true : the quality or state of being true : a statement or idea that is true or accepted as true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Football is technically a religion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyg 1,862 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Every depiction of Adam and Eve I've seen and they all have belly buttons....... Take as long as you like...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 3,986 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Here we go again.,......yawn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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